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Monitor question
by Arthur Puig on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:28:09 am

I got a question about LCD panels. I have a JVC 24 inches, which I love for the price I paid ($2200 with 120 hours of use)
So far no problems, beautiful image, but I found, after looking from the sides, that the LCD screen is not perfectly flat, you can see some sort of bumps, very subtle. Anyways, on a bright scene, on pans, specially on grays, I can see now some sort of vertical shadows, which sometimes I'm not sure if it's my eyes tricking me, and if I ask my girlfriend she will think I went totally nuts and probably leave me on the spot. But the bumps are there for a fact.
So my question is, is it normal of LCD screens? Is it a known issue? Like dead pixels? If I have to choose between this and dead pixels, without a doubt I will choose this, dead pixels are a torture, this is an occasional subtle annoyance. I can still take it for warranty, but you know, sometimes they can make it worse, they can fix one thing and give me dead pixels and then say, "well, dead pixels are accepted as normal", absolutely ridiculous.


So I would appreciate any comments on this, specially if you're using the same monitor, it's a JVC DTV24L1D

Thanks!

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Re: Monitor question
by Joseph Owens on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:47:30 pm

Essentially this is a consumer-grade display and the backlit isn't likely sufficiently diffuse. Dead pixels are part of the consumer/professional hierarchy of determining price point.

You get what you pay for.

jPo

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Re: Monitor question
by Arthur Puig on Sep 7, 2008 at 10:41:58 am

I don't think dead pixels are a price determining point, as a matter of fact, I also work with a Cinetal and it has dead pixels, where this JVC doesn't. It's just mere luck. You get what you pay, and you get the cards you were dealt. BTW, the difference between the JVC and the Cinetal is not proportional to the price difference. Also, most monitors manufacturers don't make their own LCD panels, they usually buy them from Samsung.



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Re: Monitor question
by Arthur Puig on Sep 7, 2008 at 9:19:46 pm

I also found this article online, from DV magazine.

"Once dialed in, I was amazed by the picture quality on this monitor. For the purpose of comparison, I borrowed an eCinema DCM23 monitor and placed it side by side with a Sony BVM-D 24-inch HD CRT and the DT-V24L1D. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get the eCinema's blacks anywhere near the JVC LCD's and the Sony CRT's richness. I found this very surprising, considering the price difference between the units."

http://www.dv.com/reviews/reviews_item.php?articleId=196602806

SO there you go, remorseful-overprice-spenders!!!



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Re: Monitor question
by Matthew Keane on Sep 9, 2008 at 6:25:35 pm

Hi,

A studio I work in has the exact same monitor and I had also noticed, in reflections when the monitor was switched off, that the surface seems stippled - with lots of little bumps on the surface. However, it doesn't appear to affect the image quality and so I guess it is by design. Course, if somebody knows otherwise, I'll let my client know that they should call JVC!




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Re: Monitor question
by Arthur Puig on Sep 9, 2008 at 8:07:46 pm

Well, I just took it to JVC and they are going to examine it, since it is still under warranty. I'll let you know what they say.



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Re: Monitor question
by Matthew Keane on Sep 12, 2008 at 8:47:06 pm

Thanks - let me know what they say. I'd appreciate the update...

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Re: Monitor question
by Arthur Puig on Sep 18, 2008 at 11:24:09 pm

they said is fine, there's a new model though, L3DU, and it has waveform monitor included, we'll have to see that one.
I mean, it really is a minor thing and I can perceive it only under certain circumstances, other than that you don't notice it, I was kind of embarrassed explaining that, so I guess I was being extremely picky.
Which it made me appreciate this monitor even more, considering the price and how it compares with the "Big ones" out there, and even now with waveform, the Cinetal I work with, to add the waveform option it was like another 10k extra or something ridiculous like that, now it's for free on the JVC, but no dual link yet.



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Re: Monitor question
by Matthew Keane on Sep 19, 2008 at 10:12:17 am

Hi,
Thanks for getting back. That's good news anyway, although now I suppose I won't have an excuse to encourage my client to swap for the new model with built-in waveform monitor!

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