Re: Can you color correct 'nests' by JamesR on Aug 23, 2007 at 2:02:34 pm
actually ive had a heck of a trouble doing that previously... id finished my wedding film, then i had to nest items becuase of smoothcam not liking speed changes.
Anyway, once exported and then re-imported, the edits are all different when dealing with dissolves as i guess the 'unseen' source material isnt there to be used. What that then meant was i had to shorten each nest which was a pain as it was perfect before.
Re: Can you color correct 'nests' by walter biscardi on Aug 23, 2007 at 2:13:59 pm
[JamesR]"Anyway, once exported and then re-imported, the edits are all different when dealing with dissolves as i guess the 'unseen' source material isnt there to be used. What that then meant was i had to shorten each nest which was a pain as it was perfect before."
Ok, when you have a Dissolve you have to lengthen the video to allow for the handles before exporting.
Hold down the Option key and highlight the video clips you're about to nest. By holding down the option, you don't select the audio tracks, which you don't need.
Now move the video up one track, or however many video tracks you need to move up to get them into clear tracks.
Now add handles to the front and back of each clip to be nested by simply Option Click and dragging at the head and tail of each clip. Again, Option allows you to stretch out the video without affecting the audio. I generally add at least 1 second to each end.
Now Option Select all the video tracks again and Nest.
Now you will have a Nest sitting above your main video with a hole for it to go into.
Export that Nest as a Self Contained Movie (so you can go into Color)
Import that clip and Replace the Nest in the timeline.
Trim the Clip so it fits into the hole and move it down into the hole.
Add your transitions.
This sounds very convoluted, but after you do this a few times, it becomes second nature. When you create a Nest you ONLY have access to the video within the nest, all that extra video is gone.
This procedure allows you to go ahead and use Nests and still be able to export out to Color for grading.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.
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Re: Can you color correct 'nests' by Michael Sandness on Aug 23, 2007 at 1:10:22 pm
What you should be seeing in Color in the tracks inside your nest. I feel this is confusing. So whaen people nest in FCP, I either undo it prior to color grading, or, color the nest as its own color project using grades, still stores etc from the "regular" session.
As I colorist, I prefer nesting to be done as a finishing pass, rather than in creative edit. Nesting can be done post color. In the end, it all depends on how you choose to workflow your given project.
Michael Sandness - Colorist
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Re: Can you color correct 'nests' by JamesR on Aug 23, 2007 at 1:54:46 pm
hmmm interesting thanks. I have to nest my items yes, becuase i have applied smoothcam, and then slowed that footage down. FCP6 seem to not like slowing down footage that has smoothca, hence the nest.
but yes cool thanks for that, at least i know im not completely mad and ill now have a ago as directed.
Re: Can you color correct 'nests' by walter biscardi on Aug 23, 2007 at 1:58:18 pm
[Michael Sandness]"As I colorist, I prefer nesting to be done as a finishing pass, rather than in creative edit. Nesting can be done post color."
Actually I prefer it the other way around, especially since my nests tend to include 5 - 20 video tracks. So I want to color the nest as a final element, not as individual pieces.
But that is an interesting workflow.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
http://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.
All Things Apple Podcast! http://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html
