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Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Ravi Kiran on Nov 11, 2009 at 5:44:47 pm

Is it possible to upgrade to the new Color without upgrading Final Cut Pro?

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Jack Jones on Nov 11, 2009 at 6:25:47 pm

I believe so. Just uncheck it when installing. Personally though I'm yet to come across any major struggles with FCP7 especially now as most 3rd parties have released their drivers.

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Ravi Kiran on Nov 11, 2009 at 6:34:09 pm

I ask because we're cutting something right now on the previous version of FCS, but we'd like to send it to the new version of Color for grading. Would that pose any problems?

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Jack Jones on Nov 11, 2009 at 7:01:25 pm

If you're midway through a project I strongly advise that you do not upgrade.

Any hiccups could set you back days if not weeks.

If you're feeling a bit risky, make a full system backup and then upgrade the whole Final Cut Suite. Then open your project in FCP7, upgrade the project file by clicking Yes and then check it back in detail. Once everything is perfect, which fingers crossed it still would be, save and send to color.

To be honest I can't see any software reason why there should be any problems. Hardware-wise you could have issues depending on what hardware you have plugged in, this could take longer to sort and it's well worth looking to see if their drivers exist first.

Another option would be to finish the offline in Final Cut, bring it to online res if needs be and export a QT (uncompressed or 422 HQ or something). Also export an XML/EDL. Import the QT and XML/EDL to cut the QT into clips.

All in all it will be alot of hassle either way, and I'd recommend going via my first method if that's the way you want to go.

Personally I'm an FCP7, Color 1.5 man and have had zero problems with the transition thanks to Matrox and Tangent bringing out drivers almost instantly.

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Noah Kadner on Nov 11, 2009 at 7:22:23 pm

Yeah I'd go all or nothing. There's nothing in FCP 7 that would get in the way of you're completing the project in theory- and trying to support a system with Color 1.5 but FCP 6 could cause a lot of problems.

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Bob Sliga on Nov 11, 2009 at 7:24:05 pm

No No No...
Do not try to mix versions. You will not have happy results.

Color 1.0.4 and FCP 6.x are happy working together.
Color 1.5.x FCP 7.x are happy working together.

Trying to mix Color 1.5 and FCP 6.x. could make you feel very sad. :)




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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by Arnie Schlissel on Nov 12, 2009 at 2:21:14 am

[Ravi Kiran] "we're cutting something right now on the previous version of FCS, but we'd like to send it to the new version of Color for grading. Would that pose any problems?"

You would probably not be able to round trip back to FCP when your done grading in Color.

Color & FCP send xml files to each other. FCP6 and FCP7 use different versions of the XML, so I would be surprised if FCP6 could read an XML from Color 1.5.

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Re: Upgrade to New Color Without Upgrading FCP?
by walter biscardi on Nov 11, 2009 at 10:43:51 pm

As Bob says, don't mix the new Color with the old FCP.

I will say this is the first time we did a full upgrade mid-stream in a major project (feature documentary) and it was a flawless upgrade.

BUT and a major BUT

We did the full clean installation of the Mac OS and then Studio as we always do. I installed a new drive inside my Mac Pro and did the full installation to that drive, so I still have the entire FCP 6 installation still sitting on another internal drive in my machine.

If you're going to do the upgrade, a clean install is the only way to go.

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