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need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Roli Rivelino on Nov 6, 2009 at 3:29:51 pm

I've recently got an old CRT monitor it's not that great but better than what I had, I have some control over the RGB settings.

I just need to know how best to set it up for colour correction?

At the moment the temperature is at 9300 and R is set to 97% G to 95% and B to 94%

Does brightness and contrast matter also, or is that just personal preference?

many thanks

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Re: need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Joseph Owens on Nov 6, 2009 at 4:28:42 pm

Aging phosphors, no probe.... this is not encouraging and certainly does not inspire confidence.

BTW, brightness and contrast are important and are not a matter of personal taste.
Thirty (30) foot-Lamberts or 103 candela per square meter is the spec for 709 for overall emissivity and black point (which can be subjectively set with PLUGE, but not scientific) can be dependent on your room ambience.

Yes, it is possible to convert a household kitchen or bathroom into a surgical theatre, and the advantage is that you get to bury the casualties. Big bucks to be had if you fillum the procedures.

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Re: need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Roli Rivelino on Nov 6, 2009 at 5:13:32 pm

I'm sorry but I didn't really understand your answer. How do I set those values you were talking about and what about my RGB?

aka Newbie Wan Kenewbie. "I will get over my manualaphobia, one day at a time."

System
Mac Pro 2.8Gb quad core
8Gb RAM
1x 320Gb 7200 hardrive
1x 1Tb 7200 hardrive
Nvidia Geforce 8800 512mb Graphics card
1x 1Tb external WD 'My Book' eSata

Equipment
Panasonic AG-HVX 200
Firestore FS-100

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Re: need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Peter Wollsey on Nov 6, 2009 at 8:17:35 pm

use color bars through final cut pro.....see Color User Manual Page - 330

if you don't have a blue only setting you are pretty much screwed

I believe there are some workarounds using blue gels over the screen - but this is delving into mad scientist DIY territory - google it I guess......

I reiterate - the Color Manual (and also the FCP manual) cover basic setup for a broadcast monitor....

but like JP says....an aging CRT and no probe means this is going to be ballpark territory only.....

PW

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Re: need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Loren White on Nov 6, 2009 at 9:33:58 pm

There are no magic numbers you can punch in to achieve calibration.

Is this a computer CRT...? Get a calibration puck and start from there, set to D65 and calibrate to bars, also use blue only (you won't have blue only as an option if this is a computer crt) (unless you are feeding from a mxo/mxo2)


generally no matter what you're dealing with, calibrating to bars, setting to D65 (some don't have this option and will require you to figure out which color temperature gets you closest).
and if possible, blue only.

Doing this would get you pretty close.

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Re: need help setting RGB on my CRT
by Joseph Owens on Nov 6, 2009 at 10:52:57 pm

"...and if possible, blue only.

Doing this would get you pretty close. "

As in... Hawaii is a sovereign state of the Union, so it must be "pretty close"?

There is pretty much no way to set the overall light output without a calibrated probe. Well, you can turn it up until it just starts to "bloom" and then turn it down a bit... maybe a ballpark you could lose the Titanic in...

There is a fallacy in "calibrating" a monitor with blue-only. It helps, a little, for setting phase and hue but has absolutely nothing to do with colorimetry, you know all those other colors that aren't 75% saturated yellow, cyan, green, magenta, red and blue.

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