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Render Cancelled RED footage
by Robin Erard on Aug 15, 2009 at 6:40:45 am

Hello,

first, I check on the forum if I could solve my problem, it's not the case.
second, sorry for my english I normally speak french.

I'm rendering a feature movie for a screening test, with red Rushes in Prores4444. Original material is RED 4k, my outoput is in 2k.

There are 625 shots. But after 3 hours of rendering color stops to render and all the unredered clips are "Cancelled". Have you got an idea. It did twice the same thing.

it rendered about 110 clips, and the following clips are suddenly unredered and disconected. They appear in red (color) int he timeline and if I try to clic on them, they are invisible nothing appear in the preview window. Then I have to restart color, the unredered part wich was red is visible now, and I start again the render from the next clip unredered.

My render disk has a lot of place.

An idea ?

Thank you

Robin

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by walter biscardi on Aug 15, 2009 at 12:18:17 pm

First thought would be to split your project into two projects. Keep the first half that rendered just fine, but save off a second project with only the second half of the project that doesn't render and see if Color will render that.

The new color is supposed to handle much longer projects but the original Color was good for up to 200 shots.

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Neil Sadwelkar on Aug 15, 2009 at 4:41:26 pm

There seem to be issues with Rendering Red 4k in Color with full resolution.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2887
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32747
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2855

I seem to remember reading that this issue has been fixed with the Red FCS3 Installer available now at red.com

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by David Battistella on Aug 15, 2009 at 8:35:10 pm



I am also seeing this problem.

bad.

David



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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Joe Murray on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:34:38 am

This problem has nothing to do with the length of the project, as I encountered it this week with a project of only 5 shots. Try changing your Render Proxy setting in the User Prefs to half resolution and see if your clips show up again. The problem is NOT fixed in FCS 3.



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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Robin Erard on Aug 17, 2009 at 6:03:00 am

Hello,

You say I should work with half proxy during render ? Then with a 2k render it doesn't change anything to render in half or in full ?

Robin



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Re: nder Cancelled RED footage
by Joe Murray on Aug 17, 2009 at 10:19:43 am

I'm not Saying it's the same to render using the half res proxies, I'm just saying it works. But I just re-read Neil's post above and realized he's referring to a new download from the Red site, not the actual FCS 3 update. So first thing today I'll check into that and see if it fixes the problem.

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Joe Murray on Aug 17, 2009 at 12:34:53 pm

Downloaded and installed the latest Quicktime component and FCS Studio 3 installer from the Red site and full resolution proxies are now working. Thanks to Neil for the tip.

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Robin Erard on Aug 17, 2009 at 2:47:28 pm

Thank's Joe.

Robin



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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Guillem Ventura on Sep 21, 2009 at 8:14:36 pm

it does work, thanks!

-Guillem @ Blur Producciones, Madrid.

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Joe Murray on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:36:10 am

David-

What's your solution? Do you go back to Color 1.4?

Joe

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Robin Erard on Aug 15, 2009 at 9:20:40 pm

Hello Walter,

Thank's for your message. I'm working with color 1.5, but I think that 635 shots are to much even for this new version.

I will split by two for final dpx rendering. Now after three times the same problem I have only 200 shots to render, I will finish this render with this bug...

An other person told me I should split in 19 minutes parts (according to the film laboratory) what do you think about that ?

sorry again for my english.

Robin



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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Joseph Owens on Aug 17, 2009 at 1:12:54 am

the 19 minutes limitation is a good idea since that is about the maximum mag size that a filmout laser recorder can accommodate. About 2,000 feet. That's a physical thing that is rarely considered anymore.

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Re: Render Cancelled RED footage
by Neil Sadwelkar on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:28:26 am

Intermediate film, the kind used in film recorders like the Arrilaser, are sold in 2000 feet loads. 2000 feet corresponds to 22 min 13 sec. Allowing for handling, you should not exceed 21 mins in a reel. 21 mins corresponds to about 1890 feet.

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