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FSI LCD for color grading
by Viditor Cheung on Jul 5, 2009 at 3:49:44 am

Dear all, did any one use FSI LCD for color grading purpose? any advice?

In addition, do any one have a proper standard for monitor CHROMA level (EBU standard or rec 709)? As my Klein K-10 can check the GAMUT but not CHROMA (as the gamut reading is the same what ever it is a 75% red or 100% red), so how can I calibrate the chroma level of my monitor other than using blue check function?

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Re: FSI LCD for color grading
by walter biscardi on Jul 5, 2009 at 11:42:31 am

[Viditor Cheung] "Dear all, did any one use FSI LCD for color grading purpose? any advice? "

Yes, we have three of them. 2450W and 1760W. You can read about them in my Blog here on the Cow or on my website. Or search this forum for Flanders Scientific, FSI and my name. Nick Griffin did a full review on the monitors a few months back.

http://library.creativecow.net/articles/griffin_nick/flanders_sci_lcd.php

Also, here's a post from Bob Zelin in the AJA Kona Forum.

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/98/874036

In short, they're awesome, especially the 2450W. We replaced all our broadcast CRTs with these monitors.

[Viditor Cheung] "In addition, do any one have a proper standard for monitor CHROMA level (EBU standard or rec 709)? As my Klein K-10 can check the GAMUT but not CHROMA (as the gamut reading is the same what ever it is a 75% red or 100% red), so how can I calibrate the chroma level of my monitor other than using blue check function?"

The FSI monitors have an auto calibration feature, they will arrive at your office properly calibrated. If you need to calibrate in the future, generally once a year, you can rent their kit which requires no computer. You simply connect it to the monitor and do an "auto-calibration," wait 20 minutes, and you're done.

There is a full video manual online now so you can review all the features and how they operate. Also keep in mind they have a full 30 day money back guarantee so you can try it out in your office and return it if you're not happy with it.

http://www.flandersscientific.com/index/videomanual

You can review



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Re: FSI LCD for color grading
by Viditor Cheung on Jul 5, 2009 at 7:32:48 pm

Thx for the advice.
Coz we are really scared by the 24" LCD from JVC..even the topest model...so according to you, what viewing angle is ACCEPTIBLE on FSI LCD? (Cos there is almost no acceptible viewing angle on JVC's)
and my another concern is the 8 bit panel...coz the JVC have a serious banding issue. Hows the gradient performance on FSI?

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Re: FSI LCD for color grading
by Gerry Curtis on Jul 5, 2009 at 10:30:53 pm

Hi Viditor,

I just purchased the FSI 2450 monitor based solely on Walter's and Bob Zelin's enthusiastic reviews (rare for me to make such a major purchase without testing first hand, thanks guys!) and am quite pleased with it and FSI's customer service was excellent. The viewing angle is excellent, you won't be disappointed.

Cheers,
Gerry

www.digitalkilnstudios.com

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Re: FSI LCD for color grading
by walter biscardi on Jul 6, 2009 at 12:19:38 am

[Viditor Cheung] "and my another concern is the 8 bit panel...coz the JVC have a serious banding issue. Hows the gradient performance on FSI?"

If you really want and need a 10bit panel, they start about $10,000 and go up from there. Any banding we see is due to the footage and not the monitor. We see the same banding in our Plasma screen and any CRT monitor that is connected.

So what you're seeing is the true image. You can run all sorts of heavy gradient tests on the FSI and I have yet to see any banding with gradient sweeps and the like.

Again, 30 day money back guarantee. These monitors will NOT meet the needs of every user so if it doesn't meet your needs, return it.



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Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author.
Credits include multiple Emmy, Telly, Aurora and Peabody Awards.
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Re: FSI LCD for color grading
by walter biscardi on Jul 6, 2009 at 12:30:45 am

[Viditor Cheung] "...so according to you, what viewing angle is ACCEPTIBLE on FSI LCD?"

That a Producer and I can sit beside each other and both see the same colors. All LCDs have tight viewing angles. FSI has the widest viewing angle of any LCD I've tested so far.

But with any LCD the absolute best viewing angle is straight on. That's why we have our two 2450W's mounted on swing arms so we can adjust the angle of the monitor depending on where everyone is sitting. usually it's pointed straight at me like in this picture from my Wally World edit suite. That's the 2450W with ND Filter on the right.





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Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author.
Credits include multiple Emmy, Telly, Aurora and Peabody Awards.
Biscardi Creative Media

Creative Cow Forum Host:
Apple Final Cut Pro, Apple Motion, Apple Color, AJA Kona, Business & Marketing, Maxx Digital.

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