How can I do the "Pleasantville effect" in color? I'm missing a step because right now it's either all black and white or in full color with the vignettes following the color of the rest of the frame.
Re: Pleasantville effect in Color by Helena Kristen Guenzel on Jun 28, 2009 at 2:54:09 am
i saw that tutorial earlier today, however what I'm looking to do is different. Perhaps it's not even considered the "pleasantville effect". I have a couple of shots where I'd like to have a vignette around one actress in full color while the rest of the shot is in black and white. How can I do that in color? I've played around with the saturation curves, but I'm still not getting the effect I'm looking for.
Re: Pleasantville effect in Color by joppo te veldhuis on Jun 28, 2009 at 6:41:45 am
thats gonna have to be rotoscoped. the videotutorial is done with the most easy example-shot there is, so no wonder Robbie is telling you it is so easy. if you want to isolate multiple colors (incl. skintones) it's almost undoable without catching other segments in your clip that match the same colorspectrum.
I'd do it in after effects ;)
Re: Pleasantville effect in Color by Robbie Carman on Jun 28, 2009 at 10:02:40 pm
[joppo te veldhuis]"thats gonna have to be rotoscoped. the videotutorial is done with the most easy example-shot there is, so no wonder Robbie is telling you it is so easy. if you want to isolate multiple colors (incl. skintones) it's almost undoable without catching other segments in your clip that match the same colorspectrum.
I'd do it in after effects ;) "
Joppo -your right the clip is a pretty easy example. Isolating one pretty consistent color or part of the tonal range is easy to do with the secondary saturation curve.
While I don't disagree that doing a roto on the shot in AE, Shake or some other compositing program is probably best, but if you have a lot of time or the subject that Helena describes in her shot doesn't move a lot you could essentially do the same effect with a User Shape vignette and keyframing control points in the vignette or tracking the vignette shape. After building the vignette simply switch the secondary to outside and desaturate everything outside the shape. Granted this is a pain in the ass but its doable if Helena is not familiar with other roto tools
Robbie Carman
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Re: Pleasantville effect in Color by walter biscardi on Jun 28, 2009 at 12:40:10 pm
[Helena Kristen Guenzel]" I have a couple of shots where I'd like to have a vignette around one actress in full color while the rest of the shot is in black and white. How can I do that in color"
You don't. You have to rotoscope the actress out of the scene using After Effects, Shake or some other compositing tool.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
Re: Pleasantville effect in Color by Floh Peters on Jul 1, 2009 at 5:09:20 pm
[Helena Kristen Guenzel]"i saw that tutorial earlier today, however what I'm looking to do is different. Perhaps it's not even considered the "pleasantville effect". I have a couple of shots where I'd like to have a vignette around one actress in full color while the rest of the shot is in black and white. How can I do that in color? I've played around with the saturation curves, but I'm still not getting the effect I'm looking for. "
You can do that in the secondaries. Either use a Oval or Rectangular vignette, or create a custom shape in the Geometry room. Then decrease the saturation on the "Outside" panel of the secondary. Don“t use the Curves, since they do not work with the Inside/Outside Vignettes.