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Tanner AlmonInterlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 6, 2009 at 10:29:17 pm

Here's the deal...

I recently had several reels of Super 8 Film professionally telecined to the following specs...

Format: Apple FCP Uncompressed 10 Bit 4:2:2 720X486 (634X480), Millions
FPS: 29.97

My plan all along has been to color correct in Apple Color. I recently spent the past few weekends learning the program and would love to start working with this Super 8 Footage ASAP.

Unfortunately it is interlaced which I realize is a big red flag with Color.

Before I even start cutting it together in FCP I'd love to know what you would recommend in terms of converting my source footage so that it will be ideal for color.

I was thinking that I could simply de-interlace my master footage in compressor keeping the format and fps the same. However, I have a few concerns about this as follows...

Would simply de-interlacing do the trick or do I need to somehow make the footage progressive as well. If I need to make my SD footage progressive please let me know what you would recommend as I'm not sure how to go about this. I read some other posts on this forum that said SD footage can never be progressive.

If you have any tips and/or suggestions please let me know. I've been on this forum since this forum for the past four hours and now feel more confused then when I started.

Thanks so much!






Tanner Almon


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walter biscardiRe: Interlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:23:12 am

[Tanner Almon] "Unfortunately it is interlaced which I realize is a big red flag with Color. "

We grade 720x486 Uncompressed and ProRes interlaced footage, 1080i interlaced footage all the time. No issues.

I've honestly never seen any sort of an issue with interlaced footage in the 5 years I've been running the application. I know there are issues out there reported by others, but I've never seen anything here.



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Tanner AlmonRe: Interlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 7, 2009 at 1:33:04 am

Thanks Walter. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.

Tanner Almon


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Joseph OwensRe: Interlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 7, 2009 at 7:36:27 pm

If you really wanted to blow your brains out and go whole hog, then I could suggest that you reverse telecine your transferred footage to take out the 2:3 cadence (if it was originally shot at 24 fps), and drop it into a 23.98 timeline. Since film is more closely akin to a progressive format than it is to interlaced SD, you might find this a preferable, if wildly inefficient approach.

If you hunt around in the FCP manual, you might be surprised to learn that Final Cut itself advises this as a strategy, since editing 2:3 cadenced footage on a 29.97 fps timeline does lead to some very serious trouble with field cadence and dominance -- particularly bad when Long-GOP compressed for DVD.

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Carsten OrltRe: Interlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 7, 2009 at 10:26:36 pm

Interlace is no problem as long as you have no settings in the Geometry Room! In the moment you do that your footage gets de-interlaced on render (and badly)
Also make sure that 'de-interlace renders' is not checked in the project settings.


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Noah KadnerRe: Interlaced Super 8 Telecine Conondrum
by on Jun 9, 2009 at 1:28:38 am

You could have had it transferred directly to 24p at some places 24p ProRes and you'd be all set- HD too.

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