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by Danick Sierras on Dec 24, 2011 at 5:22:30 am |
Hello,
I used a Canon HF R20 to capture video and import it into Movie Studio. The project property is:
HD 1080-60i (1920 x 1080, 29.970 fps)
After I finished editing this video, I would like to render it to my hard drive so that I can then burn it to Blu Ray with some other videos using Architect.
What settings should I use to render the video so that it has excellent quality. Will it have to re-render the video twice? (Once for Movie Studio and then again for Architect?)
Thanks
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by John Rofrano on Dec 24, 2011 at 2:41:54 pm |
[Danick Sierras] "What settings should I use to render the video so that it has excellent quality. Will it have to re-render the video twice? (Once for Movie Studio and then again for Architect?)" Press the Make Movie button and follow the prompts. It should give you the option to Burn it to DVD or Blu-ray Disc and then select Blu-ray Disc with Menus. There is nothing else you need to know. Movie Studio will "do the right thing" and then launch DVD Architect for you.
~jr
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by Danick Sierras on Dec 24, 2011 at 3:51:38 pm |
Thanks, but I don't want to burn it to Blu Ray right away. I have a bunch of videos that I want to edit and render still, plus a few more that I will probably take before the end of the year.
So the question is, which setting should I use that will produce the best quality?
I tried to use the Main Concept MPEG-2 format with the Blu-ray 1920x 1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream template. Seems to work fine and renders quite fast, but there is no sound in the output video.
When I go into custom settings, and click the audio tab, I see that the "Include audio stream" is not checked. Could this be the problem? Or should I use a different template for what I'm trying to do?
Thanks
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by John Rofrano on Dec 24, 2011 at 7:17:53 pm |
So don't burn the Blu-ray disc. Just create the video and audio streams and leave them on your hard drive for later. If you want to render manually, you need to render the audio separate as Dolby Digital AC-3. You do not want to include the audio with the video because that will not yield the highest quality.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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by Danick Sierras on Dec 25, 2011 at 4:02:59 pm |
OK - I think I now know what you mean by render the audio separately. So if I understand correctly, this is what I would do:
1) The captured video from my camera is:
HD 1080-60i (1920 x 1080, 29.970 fps)
2) Render the finished video to my hard drive using these settings:
Format: MainConcept MPEG-2
Template: Bluray 1920x 1080-60i, 25 Mbps
This produces just the video portion
3) Render the finished video again just for the sound by selecting "Project - Render as" and using these settings:
Save type as: Dolby Digital AC-3 Studio
Template: Default Template
Description: Audio: 192 kbps, 48,000 Hx, 24 bit, Stereo, AC3
4) Make sure I use the same name for both the video and sound portion
5) Open Architect and add the video portion to my menu and the sound portion will automatically follow.
Please let me know if this is basically what I need to do to get the best movie quality from my camcorder and / or if I missed or need to improve a step.
Thanks
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by John Rofrano on Dec 26, 2011 at 2:54:17 am |
[Danick Sierras] "Please let me know if this is basically what I need to do to get the best movie quality from my camcorder and / or if I missed or need to improve a step." You got it. And what I was trying to say is that using the Make Movie button will do this for you in one step instead of two but you can certainly do it manually if you want.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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by Danick Sierras on Dec 26, 2011 at 2:27:49 pm |
[John Rofrano] "You got it. And what I was trying to say is that using the Make Movie button will do this for you in one step instead of two but you can certainly do it manually if you want."
Thanks very much for your help.
Happy holidays!
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by Danick Sierras on Dec 29, 2011 at 8:47:13 pm |
OK I followed the settings above, but when I try to make the Blu Ray in DVD Architect Studio, I get a message that my Audio track will be re compressed.
I thought that using Dolby Digital AC-3 Studio with Audio: 192 kbps, 48,000 Hz, 24 bit, Stereo, AC3 would allow Architect to make a Blu Ray without re compression.
And when I checked the Sony web site, it states that it would be compliant
See Avoiding re compression in DVD Architect
https://www.custcenter.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/84/kw/architect
So why is my version of DVD Architect Studio wanting to re compress?
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by John Rofrano on Dec 31, 2011 at 6:15:44 pm |
[Danick Sierras] " when I try to make the Blu Ray in DVD Architect Studio, I get a message that my Audio track will be re compressed. " Are you sure it's your program audio and not just the audio that you added to the menus? Also, does your version of DVD Architect Studio support AC3? (some earlier versions did not)
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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by Danick Sierras on Dec 31, 2011 at 8:39:49 pm |
[John Rofrano] "Are you sure it's your program audio and not just the audio that you added to the menus?)"
I did a test with a video that had no menus, just audio and it did the same thing.
[John Rofrano] "Also, does your version of DVD Architect Studio support AC3? (some earlier versions did not)"
I just bought this version. Vegas Movie Studio HD 11 Platinum (build 283) which came with DVD Architect Studio Version 5 (build 157).
Note that this is the Studio version - NOT the Pro version.
The reason that I have to use the two steps in creating a video file and then an audio file, is because if I click on the "Make Movie" in Vegas Movie Studio, and then select the "Blu-Ray Disc with Menus", the program selects a .w64 audio format that I can not change.
I am now coming to the conclusion that DVD Architect STUDIO is not able to render an AC-3 audio file when creating a Blu-ray disc. Maybe this is just for the pro version.
However, there is no mention that AC-3 should be used for DVD authoring only.
See Avoiding re compression in DVD Architect
https://www.custcenter.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/84/kw/architect
I would like to know if anyone who has DVD Architect STUDIO able to create Blu-ray movies with AC-3 audio without having to re compress the audio.
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by John Rofrano on Jan 1, 2012 at 12:45:21 am |
[Danick Sierras] "The reason that I have to use the two steps in creating a video file and then an audio file, is because if I click on the "Make Movie" in Vegas Movie Studio, and then select the "Blu-Ray Disc with Menus", the program selects a .w64 audio format that I can not change. " If it's making a w64 file that's uncompressed PCM audio.
[Danick Sierras] "I am now coming to the conclusion that DVD Architect STUDIO is not able to render an AC-3 audio file when creating a Blu-ray disc. Maybe this is just for the pro version. " You may be right. I have DVD Architect Studio 5.0 (build 128) on my workstation and it allows me to set the project to AC3. I also have Vegas Pro 11.0 and DVD Architect Pro 5.2 on my workstation so perhaps that's why? Look at File | New and see if you can set your project audio to AC3.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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by Jorma Nippala on Jan 1, 2012 at 1:18:44 am |
John,
how can that be possible for Blu-ray? I too have DVD A Studio b128, VPro 10 and 11 (b425) and DVD A Pro b124 on the same computer and I don't find a way to set AC3 in File/New nor in File/Disc Properties.
Also from DVD A Studio Help:
Audio format
Select the control, click the button, and choose a setting to indicate the format whether you want to use PCM Stereo audio, AC-3 Stereo audio, or AC-3 5.1-surround audio.
Only PCM Stereo audio is available for Blu-ray Disc projects.
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by John Rofrano on Jan 1, 2012 at 6:29:12 pm |
[Jorma Nippala] "Only PCM Stereo audio is available for Blu-ray Disc projects." Yea, I missed that... I had the project set to DVD. You're correct that DVD Architect Studio only allows PCM audio for Blu-ray.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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by Danick Sierras on Jan 1, 2012 at 1:50:41 pm |
[John Rofrano] "Look at File | New and see if you can set your project audio to AC3."
Just like Jorma, the Blu-ray projects only have the selection for PCM. For DVD projects, I can select PCM, AC-3 Stereo or Surround.
But that's fine for Sony to have these settings as defaults for new projects. The issue I'm having is why Studio wants to re compress the AC-3 audio that was passed down from Movie Studio for Blu ray movies.
So the question is, is anyone able to prepare a Bly ray movie with DVD Architect Studio that was rendered from Vegas Movie Studio with AC-3 audio WITHOUT re compression.
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by John Rofrano on Jan 1, 2012 at 6:27:48 pm |
[Danick Sierras] "Just like Jorma, the Blu-ray projects only have the selection for PCM. For DVD projects, I can select PCM, AC-3 Stereo or Surround." OK, my mistake. I see now that when I select Blu-ray is switches to only PCM audio. That's strange because AC3 is available for DVD. I don't use Studio because I have the Pro version and I just checked this out quickly but I'd say that only having PCM audio for Blu-ray is a limitation of DVD Architect Studio.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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