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more on the interlacing
by raine parrish (rp) on Mar 1, 2008 at 11:39:11 pm

Just figured it out-but there's a snag.
To solve the interlacing issue- I have to export as a Microsfot DV file- not Microsoft AVI- which is no problem if you're exporting the entire timeline. But I need to export each clip- which means selecting as EXPORT/CLIP- and when I do that- even if the audio is still locked to the video- the audio export check mark is not an option- it kicks out the file without audio and crashes my PC.
So, is there a way to export- as a CLIP- thast includes the audio- and thus, not crash my system?
Thanks guys
r




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Re: more on the interlacing
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 2, 2008 at 5:11:23 am

I tried answering you earlier, but it looks like my post didn't go through??

Settings:
Compressor-NONE, Depth- Millions+, Qaulity 100%
[The '+' in Millions+ means your including an alpha channel]

Frame size 720h 480v (defauly setting for widescreen- even though it's not right)
[NTSC DV Full & Widescreen are both 720x480 pixels]

Recompress (tried both checked and unchecked)
[Recompression is unnecessary]

Frame rendering: default is LOWER FIELD (tried upper and none)
[Try using Gspot to determine the correct field order of your source, http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ if it's NTSC it's probably lower field first.]

Modify- tried checking Deinterlace or left unchecked.
[Don't check 'Deinterlace']

After Effects defaults to deinterlace the video. You have to R-Click on the clip in the import bin and select Interpret Footage/Main and set Separate Fields to None. Otherwise it will deinterlace.

Exporting as DV AVI or AVI shouldn't make a difference.

But to actually answer your last question... :)
You could either copy each export clip into a new sequence and export as a movie.
Or, Set the Work Area markers (at the top of the timeline) to the portion that you want to export, than Export Movie Settings/General/Range/Work Area Bar (instead of Range/Entire Sequence).

Hope this helps

Vince

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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 2, 2008 at 5:30:36 pm

Hey Vince, thanks.
Yeah, ended up using the work area indicators. Tedious but it worked. So thanks for the help.
Hey, how versed are you in AE? Looking to create the effects they did to some footage as seen on Americas Pyschic Challenge.
Very layered, effected stuff- looks great. Especially looking to create that artifical soft frame they have on some of the footage- almost like old film stock with a soft dark edge.
Here's a link if you wanna take a look. Wondering if it's a plugin that they're using.
LINK:
http://videos.lifetimetv.com/?fr_story=bcf574948fe5e4232b82e0a7ece36347dade9caf&rf=bm%20

Thanks V.
r



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Re: more on the interlacing
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 2, 2008 at 10:15:17 pm

This might be a question for the After Effects forum, there are some real AE geniuses over there.

But, looking at your example, there are a bunch of techniques being used.

Much of the lower-thirds graphics appear to be text on 3D modeling, either pre-matted or feather masked to create the blend.

The video 'fly-by', with all the little video frames, can be done totally in AE with the 3D Layer enabled in the timeline.

The blown out segments, which is what you're questioning, can also be done totally in AE.
I see optical dissolves, as opposed to linear dissolves. Do this by keyframing the Levels and Fast-blur of a clip instead of dissolving into a solid.
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/rabinowitz_aharon/Film_Flash.php

Andrew Kramer has a 5-second clip of real 8mm film damage here...
http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials.html?id=57
You can multiply this onto any footage, and you can increase it's length to 20-seconds by flipping it and running it in reverse.

This Film Damage has a pretty strong vignette, but you can create one in AE by creating a black layer on top. Than, adding a mask to it, r-click or Layer/Mask. Than open the mask settings and set it to Ellipse - Subtract. Than, feather the mask and adjust the expansion. Maybe set the layer's blending mode to Color Burn, or something.

You can blow-out the footage with AE by adjusting the layer's levels or curves, than keyframing to add the flickering.
Also, Magic Bullet Suite, and Sapphire have plugins that can automate many of these results.

I'd check all of the AE tutorials here and at VideoCopilot.net.
They can give you more accurate instruction than I can here.

:)

Vince

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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 2, 2008 at 10:40:35 pm

Thanks Vince-I've got the vignette tackled- I think- did a couple black solids with various opacity settings- then created a mask and inverted it.
I'll check out the other effects you talked about- thanks so much for all of your thoughtful info!!
I love how layered and busy the footage is then beats of clarity. Nice way to make pristine beta footage look interesting.
I've got Magic Bullet suite version 2- with a handful of preset looks- but nothing like what I'm looking for.
I think your links will do the trick, again, thanks much.
I posted something on the AE forum- but you're suggestions are hands down, the most helpful.
Thanks again pal
r



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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 2, 2008 at 11:07:31 pm

Oh man Vince, the tutorial is PERFECT, exactly what I needed, thanks for that- you see the weird effect they're doing- looks like the frame is cut in half- a horizonal cut with the next clip- is that just masking off the footage and laying the other on top?

And if you don't mind Obie Wan- how do i do the little frame fly bys- never attempted any 3D stuff yet- mostly making all of this up as I stumble along. LOL.
Thanks again
r



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Re: more on the interlacing
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 3, 2008 at 3:18:58 am

Hmmm. I cant download the file to get a good look at it, but they appear to be using all of the tricks for the transitions.
The straight cuts, really fast pushes and wipes from all directions based on the movement in the frame, and all with the film flash.
I think your idea will do the trick.

For the frame fly-bys, check this Kramer tutorial...
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/kramer_andrew/3dcompositing.php
It'll give you all of the mechanics you'll need to create the effect. It looks like there are about 3 comp'd layers holding the mini tv screens, each on a different z-axis.
You could add a white solid as the frame for each screen, than keyframe the position of the comps to create the movement.

Back to the overexposed look. If you apply MB-Misfire Flicker at it's default, than MB Looks - Bleach Bypass and bump the grade up to 5, that should come close. But, you do need a good bright shot for it to work well.

You Said:
"mostly making all of this up as I stumble along."

Me too, cuz that's how a player do it!



Vince

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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 3, 2008 at 3:59:22 am

Thanks V! Too much fun.



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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 3, 2008 at 5:11:09 am

BTW. I couldn't download the file either- so I just set up a camera and shot it off my monitor, just so I could pull it into Premiere and disect it a little.
Thought it was a Bleach By Pass too- but looks too light to me- so I puimped the contrast on my fotage then pulled out the saturation, it looks pretty good. I think I'll roll some very transparent solid layers thru the foot every now and then etc. to give it some more character.
The second tutorial is great, thanks for that one too.

Hey V. stupid question- but what key commands set the work area to the exact length of my footage- so when I render out- I don't have any extra frames?

Later pal!
rp





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Re: more on the interlacing
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 3, 2008 at 4:57:46 pm

In AE, if you pull the clip from the bin and drop it on the Make Comp button (at the bottom of the bin) it will size appropriately.

Vince

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Re: more on the interlacing
by raine parrish on Mar 3, 2008 at 5:18:05 pm

Thanks!



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Re: dissolving text
by raine parrish on Mar 18, 2008 at 1:26:18 am

Hi ya V.
Plugging away on this prmo- gotta do a simple dissolving text- never done it before. Did a quick search on the AE but nothing came up- by any chance do you know of any tutorials?
Just need some numbers to dissolve up then a beat and expand a bit as they dissolve.
Thanks much!
rp



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Re: dissolving text
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 18, 2008 at 11:37:19 pm

Hey Raine - If you're using a text layer and just looking to dissolve it in AE, could you go into the layer's Transform options and keyframe the Opacity?
Or are you creating the text another way?

As far as animating the text, if it is a text layer, I'd look into the Animation Presets/Text list in the Effects tab and see if there's anything you could use.

Or, you could always keyframe the animation as well. You could keyframe the size of the type, or the type tracking which is a nice effect (it's the AV with the arrows underneath it in the Character tab). Track the type up to like 200 as it fades out.

Maybe enable Motion Blur too.

Are you comfortable with keyframing?

I hope all is moving along on your path to video greatness!


Vince

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Re: dissolving text
by raine parrish on Mar 22, 2008 at 12:04:38 am

Hi V
Thanks for reply- great as always.
I ended up doing a simple dissolve up and a couple keyframes later dissolve down.
Now I have to recut the footage into a PR piece- so it's changing a bit- I think I need to throw a glow on the text as it comes up and down. Haven't tried yet- but maybe Starglow will work?
How's everything going your way?
Getting hit with the last snowstorm of the year right now.
Yikes.
rp



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Re: dissolving text
by Vincent Rosati on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:01:06 am

Starglow looks really nice. I haven't used it, but I have used Trapcode: Shine, they have really great plugins. The examples at Trapcode's site are awesome.
Things are going pretty well. I've been in production-type graphics for the past few years, but I'm starting in a consultation/design position in a few weeks. :)
Are you doing video animation professionally?


Vince

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Re: dissolving text
by raine parrish on Mar 26, 2008 at 8:48:07 pm

Hi V.
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like you've got some great stuff going on. Congrats on the new gig.
I've worked on a lot of commercial sets, gearing up to direct an indie feature. I dabble in just about everything creative! But not a pro- just know enough to be a danger to myself!
I can't remember- did you post a link to your new gig?
rp



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