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Thomas BrigantinoBest practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 5, 2010 at 11:04:42 am

Greeting everyone,

Anyone know what is the best format and codec to use to keep file sizes down to a minimum? Resolution of the clip is 1920x1080.

Thank you!

t.


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Dave LaRondeRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 5, 2010 at 2:33:46 pm

There is no single answer to this question. It depends on how the NEXT person intends to use the files you render in AE.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Thomas BrigantinoRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 7, 2010 at 1:56:50 am

Good evening Dave,

Ok, that clears things up a bit, although, with that said, what if the rendering from AE is the final version without intent to be used by another person?


My file sizes for a 0:06 second clip exports around 48MB and I cannot figure out the combination of format/codec to reduce it's size. If I was to use a Quicktime format what do you suggest I use as a CODEC?

Thank you for your patience, this is all new to me and I greatly appreciate any shared wisdom,

Thank you so much,

Thomas


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Dave LaRondeRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 10, 2010 at 5:40:44 pm

You have to remember that the terms "high quality" and "small file size" are mutually exclusive. The high-quality codecs can stand up to repeated compression with no degredation of image. Highly-compressed files can only be delivered and viewed -- do anything else to them, and the quality goes in the toilet.

So again, I have to ask: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THIS FILE?

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Thomas BrigantinoRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 11, 2010 at 11:43:38 pm

Dave,

Thank you for your patience and I essentially just want the exported file to be compressed as much as possible, delivered and viewed; that is all. No additional editing at all.

I hope this answers, "What am I going to do with this file?"

Thanks again!

Thomas


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Richard HarringtonRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 12, 2010 at 2:34:48 am

1. Viewed where... TV? DVD? Blu-ray? Computer? iPod? Cell Phone?
2. What platform... Windows, Mac Linux?
3. What about archiving your work for future?
4. Downloaded? Uploaded, Streaming? Disc-based?


What you're basically saying now is I'm hungry... what's good to eat. A bit to broad to really offer meaningful advice (though I do feel like Pizza if you're buying).

Richard M. Harrington, PMP

Author: From Still to Motion, Video Made on a Mac, Photoshop for Video, Understanding Adobe Photoshop, Final Cut Studio On the Spot and Motion Graphics with Adobe Creative Suite 5 Studio Techniques


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Thomas BrigantinoRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 12, 2010 at 6:13:33 am

Good morning Richard,

1. Viewed where... TV? DVD? Blu-ray? Computer? iPod? Cell Phone?

To be viewed on a Computer.


2. What platform... Windows, Mac Linux?

Exported on Windows and viewed on a Mac


3. What about archiving your work for future?

Never thought of it.


4. Downloaded? Uploaded, Streaming? Disc-based?

Downloaded.

Thanks for your help!

Take care,

Thomas


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Jim McNallyRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 12, 2010 at 2:42:26 am

Try h.264

Jim McNally
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Dave LaRondeRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 12, 2010 at 1:53:48 pm

[Jim McNally] "Try h.264"

...however, DON'T use AE to make it H.264. Here's why:

Dave's Stock Answer #3:

Don't use AE to compress files for final delivery. The various compressors are there only to make quick 'n dirty files showing a project's progress to producers, clients, the kids, etc. AE is incapable of doing multipass encoding, a crucial feature that greatly improves the image quality of H.264 and MPEG-type files in particular.

Render a high-quality file from AE, and use a different application to do the compression. Popular ones are Adobe Media Encoder, Sorenson Squeeze and Apple's Compressor, which comes bundled with Final Cut Suite. Even compressing in Quicktime Pro is better than compressing in AE.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Thomas BrigantinoRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Aug 12, 2010 at 7:19:04 pm

Dave,

Interesting, I am going to give Adobe Media Encoder a shot or Premiere.

Thanks for all of your help! Seems you cleared it all up!

Take care Dave!

All the best,

Thomas


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Thomas BrigantinoRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 7:30:18 pm

Dave,

I hope all is well.

I know this has been awhile, although, would a high quality render from AE be a Lossless AVI or are there other formats that I can use?

Kindly,

Thomas


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Dave LaRondeRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 10:10:57 pm

Sorry, I don't know beans about AVI's or any of that other Windows-centric stuff. I'm a Mac guy who works in quicktime. I even use quicktime at home on my Windows machine.

Dave LaRonde
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KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Dave CronesRe: Best practice of Format/CODEC export?
by on Mar 7, 2012 at 7:12:19 pm

Thanks Dave that's the advice I was looking for!


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