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Shane McGeeEdit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 3, 2011 at 9:41:26 pm

So i just got an OWLE Bubo for my iPhone 4 and have been taking a lot of video lately that I wanted to start editing.

I've figured out that I needed to transcode the H.264 video the iPhone 4 produces to something edit-friendly like ProRes 442. I've done this in Compressor and its all gone fine and well, but it still makes me render everything that I put in the timeline...So something is off.

Is this because of the audio not having been transcoded correctly as well?

Note: I know the iPhone records audio at 44.1KHz and it needs to be at 48KHz to work in final cut...and my settings for the ProRes442 is supposed to make it 48KHz but it still doesn't seem to be working...

There is surprisingly little useful information on this topic online.

Im pretty novice when it comes to editing so this may sounds stupid but any help is appreciated.

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Rafael AmadorRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 3, 2011 at 10:01:21 pm

Hi Shane,
The best application for easy and fast (and good) transcoding is MPEStreamclip (free).
Open your iPhone files and "Export to QT Movie..".
Just set Prores as your codec and uncheck "Interlacing Scaling". Nothing else to change > Export.

[Shane McGee] "Is this because of the audio not having been transcoded correctly as well?

Note: I know the iPhone records audio at 44.1KHz and it needs to be at 48KHz to work in final cut...and my settings for the ProRes442 is supposed to make it 48KHz but it still doesn't seem to be working..."

This would make to render only the audio, but no the video.
rafael

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 3, 2011 at 10:41:34 pm

There is two settings for ProRes442 right next to eachother and there appears to be no difference...I dont know why? It still asks me to change my timeline settings to the clip settings after i drop the clips in the timeline, but it seems to work without rendering now...I get dropped frames and stuff on playback though...any tips on how to fix this??

Also, do you know the reason why Compressor cant just work and you have to use a third party application to be able to transcode to edit the video in Final Cut Pro?

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Rafael AmadorRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 2:11:48 am

[Shane McGee] "Also, do you know the reason why Compressor cant just work and you have to use a third party application to be able to transcode to edit the video in Final Cut Pro?"
You can use the application you like the best.
I've recommended you MPGStreamclip, because is as easy as choosing the codec and unchecking a button,
instead of all the mess of Compressor and the "easy tutorial" you have fallowed.
BTW, MPGStreamclip (http://www.squared5.com/), is a FREE application that is considered the "Swiss Army Knife" of the video on Mac.
Life would be much harder for most of us without MPGStreamclip.
rafael

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Anthony Bari Jr.Re: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 12:08:25 am

Transcode to ProRes 422, depending on what your output. Try ProResPro Proxy, smaller files(FCP7 only)

Try to use the image capture app on your mac to ingest the iphone.
Just remember to iphone4 shoots 1280x720 not 1920x1080.

image capture is a free app that comes with every mac. you can see all of your photo/video files on any device mounted to your machine.
hope that helps.

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 12:19:16 am

Yep, ive been using ProRes 442 1280x720. Ive tried 24p and 30p etc...

I also use Image Capture as well, not iPhoto, although i have tried iPhoto because im getting THAT desperate...

This is kind of crazy because i go down the row of the sequence stats and the clips stats in the browser and they are all identical, yet i still have to render...

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Anthony Bari Jr.Re: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 12:25:48 am

Did you transcode your files or just change your sequence setting to ProRes?
What are you using to Transcode? try using MPEG StreamClip.
Also, check your RT settings in the top right of your timeline. Should be on unlimited, not safe.
Safe RT will cause you to render all the time.
hope that helps.

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 1:11:35 am

Here is the video tutorial i watched and did exactly what it said...





Otherwise...here is a list of steps i've taken...

1. Plug iPhone 4 into computer, open Image Capture.
2. Export all video from phone to folder.
3. Open Compressor. Select video clips.
4. Select ProRes442, drag to video files.
5. Select destination folder and apply to video clips.
6. Click submit. Wait for transcoding to finish.

7. Transcoding finished. Open Final Cut Pro.
8. Setup sequence settings to match the video setting I just created.
9. Import freshly transcoded video.
10. Try to drag video to timeline, and then it still wants everything to be rendered...


I'm using Final Cut Studio 2 if that matters.

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 1:49:38 am

I just realized the RED render line above the clip is relating to audio...so im guessing the problem lies somewhere in the audio format that the clips are being transcoded with before being brought into final cut pro.

any suggestions?


the timeline says 48khz and the clips say 48khz so i dont think its that...

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Anthony Bari Jr.Re: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 1:57:45 am

You change the Audio Playback Quality in the User Prefs>under the general tab.
also change the sequence settings to match the clips audio. 32,000khz

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 4, 2011 at 2:38:11 am

The iPhone 4 actually records at 44.1KHz but ive already tried that...adn tried converting it to 48KHz etc...nothing works.

Is there anyone out there who successfully edits their iPhone 4 video in Final Cut Pro? This is just so weird that nothing will work...

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Shane McGeeRe: Edit Workflow For iPhone 4
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 2:17:10 am

I just found the answer!

Somehow i didnt find this post in a week of google searches but better late than never!

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2506486

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