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Why, Why, Why?
by Mark Brown on Jun 27, 2009 at 1:09:10 pm

Hello All!

Everytime I add a dissolve to my project it gets, excuse the proceeding term, "interlacy". It looks great, until it hits the dissolve, then it looks pretty rough..

Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thank you for your time!

-Mark

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Steve Eisen on Jun 27, 2009 at 3:03:18 pm

Why did you not tell us what type of footage you are using? Yes this your first post, and we want to help but we can't until you give us more information.

How are you viewing your footage?

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by walter biscardi on Jun 27, 2009 at 3:09:11 pm

What type of footage are you working with?

What type of timeline are you editing in?

How are you sending your video to the external monitor and what monitor are you using? (I.e. a Kona card connected to a panasonic TV)

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Problems adding dissolve
by Zane Barker on Jun 27, 2009 at 5:05:33 pm

Just thought a more discriptive subject line would help you. Saying why why why says nothing of what your problem is.

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by David Roth Weiss on Jun 27, 2009 at 5:50:46 pm

And furthermore, are you rendering, and is "Full" checked in the render drop-down menu?

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Mark Brown on Jun 28, 2009 at 1:00:59 am

Wow! I'm sorry for my "rookie-ness"

I'll try not to let it happen again...

The footage I'm editing was a .mov file. I'm viewing my footage through both the viewer and also have tried exporting to quicktime but it still is "interlacy".

I'm not using an external monitor, and I wasn't aware of different types of timelines, so I'm using the default.

BUT! I have seen that "full" was not checked in the render drop down menu, so I'm going to try that.

Again, I apologize for my ignorance on the subject...that's why I came to you cats for help.

Thanks for everything.

-MB




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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Shane Ross on Jun 28, 2009 at 4:19:28 am

.Mov doesn't tell us anything...sorry. .Mov can contain any of a dozen CODECS. Get INFO on a file and see what it says. Or scroll to the right in the Browser and see what it says for codec.



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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Mark Brown on Jun 28, 2009 at 4:15:28 pm

Okay, so the checking "full" in the render drop down didn't work, so I've attempted to find the codec...

Would it be H.264?

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand why my footage would look great until an effect is added (a dissolve). And the monitoring is on my iMac, but I can't see why it would look interlaced only during the dissolve...it's not a monitor problem.

Please help if you can, I'm just trying to learn.

Thanks!

-MB

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Shane Ross on Jun 28, 2009 at 4:36:37 pm

H.264 is not an editing codec. You need to convert it to a format you see listed in the easy setups. Like prores or dv/ NTSC.

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by walter biscardi on Jun 28, 2009 at 5:17:17 pm

[Mark Brown] "Okay, so the checking "full" in the render drop down didn't work, so I've attempted to find the codec...

Would it be H.264? "


That would be a huge issue. H.264 is a delivery codec not an editing codec.


[Mark Brown] "I'm sorry, but I just don't understand why my footage would look great until an effect is added (a dissolve). And the monitoring is on my iMac, but I can't see why it would look interlaced only during the dissolve...it's not a monitor problem. "

You cannot monitor your video project on your computer screen. The Canvas display is a proxy image that does not display full resolution video because FCP expect you to have a proper external TV monitor connected to your system. So yes, it's a monitor and probably codec problem.



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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Mark Brown on Jun 28, 2009 at 6:33:41 pm

So why when I export it as a quicktime does it show the interlacing?

And why when I watch the project it looks perfect until the dissolve comes in, and then looks great again after?

I imported my footage from a quicktime file...

I've never had this problem before.

All I'm getting from this forum is vague rebutles, and no specific aid. Again, I am sorry that I am not as educated on the intricacies of FC, but I am just trying to learn.

Also, it drops frames when the effect hits, is this a clue to what the problem could be?

Thanks!

-MB

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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by David Battistella on Jun 28, 2009 at 7:05:58 pm


Mark,

The Viewer and canvas in FCP only disply one field. That is why you do not see the interlacing until the export phase and watch in QT which displays both fields.

Get a video card and an external monitor to see everything coming out of FCP on the fly.

Peace,
David



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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by walter biscardi on Jun 28, 2009 at 7:15:31 pm

[Mark Brown] "So why when I export it as a quicktime does it show the interlacing?

And why when I watch the project it looks perfect until the dissolve comes in, and then looks great again after?
"


Probably because you have a compressed, progressive image put into the wrong type of timeline. You also have H.264 footage will show all sorts of issues when you add transitions and effects.

Use a proper editing codec like DV, DV50, Uncompressed, ProRes and set your timeline up accordingly.



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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Zane Barker on Jun 28, 2009 at 11:16:50 pm

[Mark Brown] "All I'm getting from this forum is vague rebutles, and no specific aid. Again, I am sorry that I am not as educated on the intricacies of FC, but I am just trying to learn."

Mark please don't think that anyone on here is being harsh because you are new to FCP. The reason that they may come across that way is because nobody here can see your setup, or anything about the project you are working on unless you tell us. If everyone just guessed about the type of footage you are working with, or what your settings are then you would never get any real help.

Just from what I have read on this post it seems like you know vary little about video production, now there is nothing wrong with that, however ending up with a polished good looking video is not as easy as many people think it is. If you plan on continuing to work with a high end program like FCP then I am going to highly recommend taking a course in basic video.




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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Kai Cheong on Jun 28, 2009 at 9:22:55 am

If the format of the footage is interlaced [eg. DV] - then it will appear as interlaced on a computer monitor because computer monitors are progressive.

A proper way of monitoring would be through an external TV/broadcast monitor, which will display the interlacing correctly. The poor man's way would be to connect a MiniDV camera via Firewire to your Mac and preview your video through it.



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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Rafael Amador on Jun 29, 2009 at 5:22:06 pm

Mark,
The first thing you need to know is if your h264 is interlaced or progressive.
If is Interlaced you need to edit it in an interlaced sequence.
You can as well to edit it in a Progressive sequence, but in this case you need to apply a de-interlacing filter to the clips in the time-line.
Cheers,
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Re: Why, Why, Why?
by Mark Brown on Jun 30, 2009 at 12:10:53 am

Thank you for your aid Rafeal!

I've been doing alot of digging, attempting to find the right answer, and I've found amongst some posts that changing the speed of clips could have this affect. It just so happens that the footage that is right before the dissolve (only then does it appear "interlaced") is at 58%.

Does this shed any new light on my dilemma?

Thanks for any suggestions!

-MB

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