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Arash SahbaAdobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 3:45:21 pm

Hey guys,

Sorry I couldn't find an an adobe media encoder section.

The editor at our studio only edits and doesn't do anything related to adobe programs. He mostly uses Final Cut Pro but sometimes he has to export an FLV in order to get the video on the web because that's the format our web guy request.

I was wondering if there is any way of install adobe media encoder by itself without any adobe products like flash, after effects, or premiere so he can convert the movies he makes in Final Cut Pro to an FLV format.

Thanks


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Joseph W. BourkeRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 3:53:37 pm

Hi Arash -

Here's the word from Adobe:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WSF5D5D2E0-C96D-4565-AE9A-A68CB...

As far as installing ONLY the Media Encoder, I would think that you could put your install disc for whatever CS4 (you don't say which versions of Adobe products you have) product you own, then just choose to install the media encoder. The site noted above calls it a "standalone media encoder", but it also has hooks into Premiere, AE, etc.. It should work.


Joe Bourke
Creative Director / Multimedia Specialist
B&S Exhibits and Multimedia
bs-exhibits.com


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Arash SahbaRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 4:07:26 pm

Well what I'm saying is that the this is for the Editor to export FLV, and he doesn't own any Adobe products. He just wants Adobe Media encoder.

I have adobe media encoder because I have cs5.


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Bret WilliamsRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 10:30:00 pm

Export QT h.264 .mov file. Change .mov to .flv. Done. No encoder neccessary.


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Dave LaRondeRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 10:36:40 pm

[Bret Williams] "Export QT h.264 .mov file. Change .mov to .flv. Done. No encoder neccessary."

Aaahhh, I'm kinda wincing at that suggestion. You can't do multipass encoding in AE, which really improves the image quality in H.264 files.
If you have nothing else to use, I suppose it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. But if you're after good quality, there's gotta be some other way to do it.

Dave LaRonde
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KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Bret WilliamsRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 25, 2010 at 5:16:51 pm

As I read it, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with After Effects and exporting from After Effectss. He said his buddy has to export from FCP as H.264 but sometimes needs flv instead. Assuming they're happy with their h.264 exports from FCP (whether it be compressor or QT conversion I don't know - either works beautifully) then I was suggesting they simply change the .mov to .flv. That works wonderfully. In other words, if he's looking to install Adobe Media Encoder on his friends system just to gain flv output capabilities then there's no point. Just change the extension.


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brian keithRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 27, 2010 at 1:42:48 pm

Brett,

If you are encoding as an h.264 you are creating an .f4v. Now, if you use AME, you can encode using the Sorenson Spark - On2 VP6 Codec for .flv's.

To the original poster...If you are wanting to encode .flv's...try a program called DV Kitchen. That should take care of your needs.



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Bret WilliamsRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 29, 2010 at 4:54:55 am

I've never made an f4v with the above technique. Just flv. Never a problem. Flash supported h264 before f4v I believe.


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Alan LloydRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on May 24, 2010 at 5:53:39 pm

Adobe does make a standalone Flash encoder.


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Tim BoknechtRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 9:55:52 pm

Ah, but it would be extremely helpful if Adobe sold Media Encoder as a standalone program. For instance, master control operations in small to medium stations often need to flip problematic electronic media files to the proper format or running time for their station. Say a spot comes in from another station in town that for whatever reason can't seem to make a :30 that's not longer than :30, plus the format is all jacked up. Instead of having someone in the creative services department run the spot through media encoder, the master control guys could have their own standalone license and do it themselves.

Makes sense, no? So why hasn't Adobe done it? Probably the same reason they update flash player every 3 seconds but still haven't developed a true 3D modeling program; they're not as forward-sighted as they should be.

Tim Boknecht
Media Producer
Bravo Productions


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Dave LaRondeRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 10:26:30 pm

[Tim Boknecht] "So why hasn't Adobe done it? Probably the same reason they update flash player every 3 seconds but still haven't developed a true 3D modeling program; they're not as forward-sighted as they should be."

I suppose it depends on your point of view. I don't see the folks at Maxon coming out with an effects and compositing application -- they stick with Cinema 4D. Are they also short-sighted?

There's something more fundamental, too: I don't think Adobe Media Encoder can handle streaming mpeg 2 bit rates as high as 35 mb/sec, which is something regularly encountered in a broadcast environment, and which an application alike Telestream's Episode Pro already handles with ease.

Dave LaRonde
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Tim BoknechtRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 11:09:49 pm

Well, Maxon is clearly not the player Adobe is when it comes to all forms of media production. They don't have the market share. Adobe's acquisitions of other companies (and therefor software) demonstrates their vision is to be a major player in practically all forms of media production and consumption.

Given that, it only makes sense that they also develop a 3D modeling program - especially since ALL the major players in that arena were bought up by Autodesk. Now if you want to enter that game you have to pay a minimum $3500 ticket price. Adobe could develop a program and bundle it for a smaller price and destroy Autodesk in market share in short order.

They already bifurcated Media Encoder with the release of CS4. Why not just sell it independently as well and pad the bottomline?

Tim Boknecht
Media Producer
Bravo Productions


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Dave LaRondeRe: Adobe Media Encoder, as a stand alone program
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 11:22:06 pm

[Tim Boknecht] "Adobe could develop a program and bundle it for a smaller price and destroy Autodesk in market share in short order."

Understand this: I'm not privy to Adobe's plans for future software development. But now that they've cleared the 64-bit hurdle -- a Big Deal -- who says the folks in San Jose aren't turning their eye to something new? Once again, that's just speculation, not based in fact, so take it for wehat it's worth.




[Tim Boknecht] "They already bifurcated Media Encoder with the release of CS4. Why not just sell it independently as well and pad the bottom line?"

Beats the heck out of me! I don't think it's as versatile as some other highly-respected compression applications already available, which could be holding it back. I don't think Adobe would want to sell an application that would instantly be regarded as something less useful than others. More speculation.

I don't have a lot of facts on this topic, do I?

Dave LaRonde
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KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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