CC Particle World Keeps Crashing

	CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 19, 2009 at 3:26:28 pm In After Effects I cannot use CC Particle world anymore. Every time I try to apply it After Effects crashes. I just installed CS4 on my new Mac Pro and it just won't let me use it. Any thoughts on how to fix this. I have tried repairing the install but it still does not work. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Kevin Camp on Mar 19, 2009 at 3:58:26 pm i'm not sure if cc particle world tries to use opengl for accelerated previews, but you might try disabling opengl in preferences>previews. just uncheck the use opengl option and set accelerate previews to adaptive resolution. this should prevent effects from accessing opengl which often helps preview/render problems in ae. also, disabling opengl for previews will allow multiprocessing for previews which is normally of greater value to more effects than opengl. Kevin Camp Senior Designer KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by david bogie on Mar 19, 2009 at 6:39:14 pm Yar, but you're going to need to determine what other effects crash AE. You've got some testing to do before you can start debugging. bogiesan Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 19, 2009 at 7:40:24 pm I just tried every single one and Particle world is the only one that makes AE crash. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 19, 2009 at 6:41:22 pm I tried doing that but it still crashes anytime I try and apply it. P.s. I am running a Mac Pro Dual Quad Core system. What are the best settings for running AE. Should I leave OpenGL off? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Kevin Camp on Mar 19, 2009 at 9:58:34 pm i leave opengl disabled... i've found that most of the benefits are lost once you encounter stability problems. throw in the fact that if it is enabled, it will disable multiprocessing for previews and it's pretty easy for me to leave it off.... i'm using a dual 2.8 quad mac pro with cs4 too, and i'm not having any trouble with particle world... you're using the version that ships with ae (vs. the version that can be purchased form cycore)? have you tried a different comp size? just curious if it might work with an sd comp vs an hd comp.... have you tried enabling or disabling multiprocessing? preferences>memory & multiprocessing, check the option for render multiple frames simultaneously... i have mp on here (again, with no problems). also, do you have the latest version of cs4? there is an update to 9.0.1 that fixed many bugs... (i'm currently running with the update) Kevin Camp Senior Designer KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 20, 2009 at 2:55:21 am I am running without the updates. I will download those and see if that helps. I don't make any comps in HD. We don't do HD out yet as its not quite yet worth it for what we are doing. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 20, 2009 at 3:37:37 am I installed the update and I still have the same issue. I changed all the settings like you said. Tried many variations, but nothing seems to work. I guess I better just buy Trapcode. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by david bogie on Mar 20, 2009 at 3:44:40 pm Nils, thanks for monitoring the forum. Wish more mfrs and publishers of plugs would do that. Hope you can help this guy. Particle World rocks! (but i miss those obsolete old particle filters, too) bogiesan Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 20, 2009 at 5:29:42 pm I tried what you said and it did not work. Its weird because none of the other ones have that problem. Is there anyway to download a new version of the plugin? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 20, 2009 at 6:25:43 pm Sure I will send it as soon as I can. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 21, 2009 at 6:03:55 pm I sent a copy of the plugin to the company who made it, so hopefully they can figure out the problem with it. If they let me know anything I will let you know as well. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Ro on Mar 24, 2009 at 8:18:04 pm Hey guys, I am having the same problem, as well. I just got the new mac pro nehalem- 2.66ghz dual quad core and installed adobe cs4 production premium. every time i try to use cc particle world in a comp on after effects - i get this: "After Effects error: crash occurred while invoking effect plug-in "CC Particle World"" I have reinstalled, done the update and even called adobe. I am waiting to hear back from adobe on this. i think it is such a new problem they didn't even know about it. the tech guy was actually checking creative cow for a solution while i was on the phone with him! KINDA WIERD: I also had this same crash error when I downloaded some projects from videocopilot.net and tried to load them into AE and all plug-ins attached to the project crashed. For example: I downloaded tutorial project #66. "3d Sparks Title" and then clicked on it and it opened up in AE and it needed to convert, then I had the same AE plug-in crash error for CC particle world, exposure, and glow, respectively. Oddly enough, when I just go into a new comp and apply exposure and glow to a solid layer without cc particle world it works just fine. I really hope someone finds a solution soon!!! Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 25, 2009 at 5:43:08 pm We have a guy from cycore looking into the problem right now. Eventually I hope that they will make a patch. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Ro on Mar 25, 2009 at 9:21:14 pm I just tested trapcode particular and it seemed to work fine. FYI: I am running AE CS4 on Mac OSX Server (10-client) Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Mar 25, 2009 at 11:31:31 pm I am running as follows Mac Pro Dual Quad Core 2.26ghz 6BG Ram 640GB HD NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Ro on Mar 26, 2009 at 1:42:45 am MAC PRO (received 3/23/09) 2.66GHz Dual Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem” 6GB RAM (upgrading to 16GB soon) ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB HD ONE = 640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb HD TWO = 640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb One 18x SuperDrive AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi Card MAC OS X SERVER (10 CLIENT) * Using Adobe Production Premium CS4 Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by John Stanowski on Apr 24, 2009 at 3:05:52 pm Same problem here. I have a new Mac Pro. Using AE CS4 and Cycore HD. Particle World keeps crashing AE. Model Name: Mac Pro Model Identifier: MacPro4,1 Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor Speed: 2.26 GHz Number Of Processors: 2 Total Number Of Cores: 8 Memory: 16 GB Processor Interconnect Speed: 5.86 GT/s I have a project I constantly make different versions of which relies heavily on Particle World. I'm kinda screwed right now. Any news? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Rohatgi on Apr 24, 2009 at 3:43:12 pm Hi John, Adobe contacted me to let me know they are working on an update. It could take months. Currently the i7 (nehalem) architecture is not supported by them yet - according to their engineers. I have also done several tests using "dummy" particle world plug-ins sent to me by Nils at Cycore to give them feedback because they currently do not have their own nehalem to test on. Hopefully, this feedback has given them enough info to create a fix. In the meantime, I am using Trapcode Particular. It seems to work fine so far. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Steven Williams on Apr 28, 2009 at 11:15:46 am What a royal PITA. I wished I'd know that! Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Rohatgi on Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13:49 pm Here is Adobe's "official" response: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb409049 Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Lucas Windsor on Apr 28, 2009 at 2:59:22 pm They are working on a patch. I would recommend getting Trapcode Particular. Its actually a much more powerful particle generator then particle world. It is a bit pricey for just doing particles, but its the best product on the market and a patch may be at least 4-6 months away. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Karl-Jason Mawdsley on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:25:55 am Done a bit of research into this - apparently the fault is due to Hyper-threading technology which allows your computer to sue different parts of your processors to perform different tasks. If you switch it off you can use CC Particle World in After Effects CS3 - no upgrades or anything. A guy has created a little app that allows you to switch hyper-threading technology on and off whenever you want. I've been using it for a day now and it works fantastically. You can get it here: http://satymahajan.com/changeht/ NB: If you're computer goes to sleep or restarts hyper-threading is automatically switched on. Hope this helps - it certainly helped me... Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Karl-Jason Mawdsley on Sep 8, 2009 at 7:50:09 am Not sure if it works with CS4 because as far as I know the issue has been resolved. Anyhoo, there are a few things you can try. All the app does is to run a few lines of code in terminal so you can do it manually if you want... Just type this: hwprefs cpu_ht=false and that should disable it - if you want to re-enable it then type: hwprefs cpu_ht=true or restart your computer. I am also on a mac pro and it works on mine. Is it a 2009 tower? This trick only works on computers with the Nehalem architecture you see.... Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Rohatgi on Sep 8, 2009 at 3:30:06 pm CC Particle World on After Effects CS4 on my Nehalem has been working great thanks to the fix by Cycore. However, I just wanted to know if anyone that has moved to Snow Leopard has had any problems with After Effects CS4 or any other software using a quad or dual-quad Nehalem mac pro. I am in the middle of some major projects for clients and I am reluctant to make the jump. thanks for your feedback! Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Karl-Jason Mawdsley on Sep 8, 2009 at 4:59:20 pm I have upgraded to Snow Leopard and have had problems with Adobe Products across the board. I would wait until 10.6.1 comes out if I were you... Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Rohatgi on Sep 8, 2009 at 5:52:20 pm Thanx, I will wait to upgrade to Snow Leopard CycoreFX HD 1.6.5 is the fix I am speaking of. You can get it at http://www.cycorefx.com/ Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: CC Particle World Keeps Crashing by Roger Rohatgi on Sep 30, 2009 at 2:35:40 pm Hi Peter. Yes, that should do the trick - but you could email Cycore and ask them to just make sure. They are very nice people. I have been using it since it released and have had no problems. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index