Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects!

	Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by Kevin Collins on Jan 20, 2009 at 8:31:09 am I've read much about expecting huge files from the AE renders of ProRes/HDV formatted files but six times bigger than the source? Is it to be expected that when I import a 21MB Apple ProRes 244(HQ) clip provided by my partner with a Mac and Final Cut into my Windows After Effects that the file size when rendered Animation/lossless with no edits is six times larger than when imported? The guy has sent me these clips, into which I have compd some CG elements. Everything's great until I see the massive file sizes after rendering. Am I missing something? Does it even make sense for a FCP user to send Apple ProRes 244(HQ) clips to a Window's AE guy? The details.... Import footage received from Mac user (shot in HDV 24p 1920x1080) and presumably edited and exported with FCP. Format: Apple ProRes 422 (HQ), 1920 x 1080, Millions FPS 23.98 Data size: 20.96MB Data rate: 150.63 mbits/sec Duration 1.17 Making no changes, just loading it into AE on my Windows box and the rendering it lossless as follows... Quicktime Format: Animation, 1920 x 1080, Millions Playing and Movie FPS: 23.98 Data Size: 117.99MB Data rate 847.57 mbits/sec Duration: 1.17 Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by Dave LaRonde on Jan 20, 2009 at 3:29:09 pm [Kevin Collins] "Is it to be expected that when I import a 21MB Apple ProRes 244(HQ) clip provided by my partner with a Mac and Final Cut into my Windows After Effects that the file size when rendered Animation/lossless with no edits is six times larger than when imported?" Yes, it is. My only advice is to get used to it. Dave LaRonde Sr. Promotion Producer KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by kevin collins on Jan 20, 2009 at 6:47:23 pm Thanks Dave. I had read your other resoponses on the subject and while I saw plenty indicating that Windows AE Animation compression will definitely create much bigger files from their ProRes422 source, I missed any specific ratios like "6 times larger!". So when I get these files back to my partner using ProRess422, I guess he'll need to compress with ProRes422 to view these massive data rate files and of course to edit/comp in FCP? ...all before the final render for his webisode. :) Do have that right? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by Dave LaRonde on Jan 20, 2009 at 7:00:20 pm If you DON'T have Final Cut pro on your machine, I don't think you can render using ProRes. Give it a try: if you can, you can render is ProRes so your partner doesn't have to, or you can maximize the quality out of your machine by rendering Animation at 100%. It's your choice... but a 140MB file size isn't bad at all. Dave LaRonde Sr. Promotion Producer KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by Scott Roberts on Jan 22, 2009 at 9:26:22 am "It's your choice... but a 140MB file size isn't bad at all." I agree. Color Grading presets for After Effects, Premiere, etc., plus free presets and more. LITTLE BLACK BIRD - PROFESSIONAL VISUAL EFFECTS http://www.littleblackbird.com http://www.myr3d.com Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Final Cut 21MB AppleProRes renders 6 times larger in After Effects! by kevin collins on Jan 23, 2009 at 3:15:49 am Thanks Dave and Scott! Most helpful to believe I'm not just doing something stupid. :) Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index