Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Joe Moya on Jul 28, 2008 at 11:50:02 pm
You want "it" to go down...
.. I assume you want the camera to go down...because I am assuming the drop will go down because of gravity...
... and, you want the camera at a diagnal...????
Diagnal? What doesn't make sense is... why diagnal? ...first of all, you have a white background... so there would be no frame of reference for any point of view for the shot of an object (i.e., the drop) that is pretty much a circular homogenious textured object. You could have the camera from any side point of view and no one would be able to tell from what angle it is shot when you have only a white background.
You need a frame of reference to determine the shot angle. However, a top or side view is definative because of the falling direction.
All that aside... if you look at the referenced site in my previous post... you will see many variation of shots for water drops... and, included is an explanation of how he did this short promotion. At that site's promo video, you have side views, top view and bottom view shots of falling drops. You could pick one of the views in the short promtion video that comes close to what you are trying to achieve and ask more details using the video as a reference.
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Scott Ontropy on Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33:52 am
i want the drop to fall and hit a white floor, and i want to have the camera at the side, and go down, and around, looking like your rolling your eyes down at the water, or moving your head down, and i want to to go around, like a vortex
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Joe Moya on Jul 29, 2008 at 1:19:25 am
OK... I think I finally have it...
Now, the bad news... what you want to do requires a 3D application.
Rolling your eyes over the drop will require a 3D drop to achieve the depth you will need to make this possible. Without the 3D water drop object, ...as you move over the drop... the drop will look flat.
This can not be done with AE...
However, it can be done with Blender (a powerful yet difficult to learn (IMO) freeware).
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Joe Moya on Jul 29, 2008 at 1:32:53 am
...In fact, now that I think about it...
You could do this entire animation in Blender using actual gravity-like effect on the water drop...then, using a camera to isolate the drop and follow it to the ground from Any angle... (or, even use multiple camera view points).
And, the splash would be completly 3D generated with gravity algorithms to produce the splash and the multiple micro-drops that form from the splash against a solid object (i.e., ground)...or, you could switch to wave deforations if the drop hits water.
However, before you decide to learn how to do this with Blender... be warned that the rendering process for a simple drop and splash against an object is extremely render intensive and a simple 10 sec. drop scene can take a long time.... and, that's with a powerful PC (multiprocessers does not help because Blender can't utilize multi-processors for the making liquid models).
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Scott Ontropy on Jul 29, 2008 at 1:40:10 am
well, i really want to do this in after effects.... i want it to fall, the camera to point down....splash...and i want some txt to appear...and in after effects....are you sure i cant do it in after effects for free?
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Joe Moya on Jul 29, 2008 at 2:37:09 am
Well... the link I noted above actually does this... except he uses a creation of a flame upon impact of the drop instead of a splatter...have your read the step by step explanation of how he created the promo video?
Here is a sight that uses a drop to create a wave on impact... all you need to do is add the drop (from a top view... just like the link I originally posted used his drop viewpoint)... and you have what I think is what you are looking for... BUT, you can not rotate over the drop to get the view (i.e., go from a side view to a top view).
As for free... well... Blender is free... you just have to download it... and Blender is a very powerful 3d application that can do what you want...but, it will some time to learn how to use the software. It is not easy to learn in my opinion.
Re: Can Anyone Help Me With This? by Corbin Gross on Jul 29, 2008 at 2:14:20 pm
You know, I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for but there's a tutorial by Aharon Rabinowitz that has a water drop and a splash. But it's super basic and very not 3D. If whatever your making can have something of a vectory, screen printy feel it might be just what your looking for.
