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Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Anjum Gill on Jun 26, 2008 at 12:21:11 pm

Hi

I am using After Effects CS3, I am usging foundry keylight 1.1 for CS3 but I cannot render my composition which is 2 minutes long and its crashing giving this msg "crash occured while invoking effects plugin keylight (1.1)" Any one know what this is ?

Any help would be much appreciated



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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 26, 2008 at 3:37:14 pm

What kind of footage are you using? What kind of camera was used to shoot it, and what kind of codec does it use?

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Joey Foreman on Jun 26, 2008 at 6:09:52 pm

Why are you using 1.1? AE CS3 ships with Keylight 1.2.

Joey Foreman
Editor/Animator
Nowhere Productions, Athens, GA

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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Anjum Gill on Jun 27, 2008 at 6:04:45 pm

Hi Joey

Sorry ma bad yes you are right its not Keylight 1.1 it is indeed 1.2 I thought I should make correction to this :)




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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Anjum Gill on Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01:35 pm

Hi Dave
Thanks for responding to my post, I hope this will answer all your Questions about camera and footage spec.


Camera is JVC MG505 3CCD

Pixel aspect ratio:
Standard NTSC video 4:3 interlaced
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 122.3 MB
Image Size: 720 x 480
Pixel Depth: 720
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - compressed - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00;01;48;02
Average Data Rate: 1.1 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.9

In addition to this here are my System spec

OS: XP Pro SP3 32bit
processor: AMD Phenom 9500 quad core
Ram: 4GB
AGP: Nvidia 8600GT
harddisk: 750GB Sata II

I beleive it has something to do with memory & chahe although the maximum ram chache size was set to 60% which is a standard.

I did try something yeasterday, by decreasing the maximum ram chache size from 60% to 40% I was able to render it without error but is there any other way around ? many thanks



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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 27, 2008 at 6:20:23 pm

[Anjum Gill] "Type: MPEG Movie "

AHA! MPEG! That's one reason why you're having trouble. Read on....


Dave's Stock Answer #1:

If the footage you imported into AE is any kind of the following -- Native HDV, MPEG1, MPEG2, mp4, m2t, H.261 or H.264 -- you need to convert it to a different codec.

These kinds of footage use temporal, or interframe compression. They have keyframes at regular intervals, containing complete frame information. However, the frames in between do NOT have complete information. Interframe codecs toss out duplicated information.

In order to maintain peak rendering efficiency, AE needs complete information for each and every frame. But because these kinds of footage contain only partial information, AE freaks out, resulting in a wide variety of problems.


Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Anjum Gill on Jun 27, 2008 at 6:31:01 pm

Hi Dave

I probably am not as good as you guys are in posting and responding to forums because I did miss out a very important bit that is the file created by this camera is actually MOD which in other words is MPEG 2 but is not readable in after effects at all.

So in order to make it work with AE I got a dll files from a friend that makes Adobe Premiere CS3 read this file and then save it in any format, I choose to save it as AVI no compression applied will this make any difference ?



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Re: Foundry Keylight 1.1 error in AE CS3
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 27, 2008 at 6:47:14 pm

[Anjum Gill] "...I choose to save it as AVI no compression applied will this make any difference ?"

It should make a big difference. If you still have the old footage and the old After Effects project, you may be able to use the Replace Footage command, which will substitute the new footage in the comp. Your existing Keylight settings may work.

You may not have to create and AVI with no compression. If there is such a thing as a lossless codec in windows, you could use it to reduce the file size. I don't know if one exists because I work on a Mac.

If that camera of yours is capable of shooting DV rather than MPEG, use it. It will be better than MPEG, but I still wouldn't expect miracles when trying to pull a good chroma key from either type of footage

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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