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AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 10:50:51 am

Okay, i'm having this problem with rendering in AE.

I'm trying to render a simple 5 sec clip with some audio tracks, if i do it without audio checked in the output settings, everything goes fine. It renders in no time. But when i check the audio, it just stays at the first frame when rendering and does nothing. But it doesn't freeze up, everything still works. I waited for around 20 minutes, there's gotta be some problem somewhere, right?

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Don Days on Jun 25, 2008 at 2:54:20 pm

Is your audio file an mp3? If so try a .wav file.

Don Days
Editor/Graphic Artist
FixedInPost.com

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 2:58:44 pm

Nope, all the audio files are .wav format and off the Designer Sounds FX collection, which i recently acquired.

I'm continuously trying to solve the problem myself, but if anyone has any ideas, i'd be most thankful.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 25, 2008 at 3:30:41 pm

The problem may not be your audio files, but your VIDEO files. Read on.....


Dave's Stock Answer #1:

If the footage you imported into AE is any kind of the following -- Native HDV, MPEG1, MPEG2, mp4, m2t, H.261 or H.264 -- you need to convert it to a different codec.

These kinds of footage use temporal, or interframe compression. They have keyframes at regular intervals, containing complete frame information. However, the frames in between do NOT have complete information. Interframe codecs toss out duplicated information.

In order to maintain peak rendering efficiency, AE needs complete information for each and every frame. But because these kinds of footage contain only partial information, AE freaks out, resulting in a wide variety of problems.


Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 5:59:59 pm

Well the audio format is PCM, if that's what i should be looking for here. Not really familiar with this, i tried eliminating different parts, and the audio is really the only thing seeming to cause this glitch.

I don't know, could it be in the settings? I'm using all the defaults although.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 25, 2008 at 7:26:00 pm

[Silver Adamson] "Well the audio format is PCM, if that's what i should be looking for here.... I don't know, could it be in the settings? I'm using all the defaults although. "

Re-read the above post. The problem may not lie in audio files, but video files.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Russ Moore on Jun 25, 2008 at 6:11:08 pm

Maybe render out the visuals without audio, then the audio as a .WAV, and then combine the two files in After Effects for a final render...

...not really solving the problem, but it might be a temporary work around.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 8:44:17 pm

Yeah, i've tried that, and as i've said many times, rendering without the audio everything is okay, but when i try to render audio with the comp or just as a single file, it won't start rendering. I can't seem to imagine how that is caused by any of the video files. But thank you.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 25, 2008 at 8:48:34 pm

[Silver Adamson] "I can't seem to imagine how that is caused by any of the video files."

Well, if you're using any footage of the types enumerated, the video CAN affect the audio.

Another thing: if you don't set up the Output Module to actually render video AND audio, you won't get any audio.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 8:52:42 pm

I'll have another look at the files, and i'll have another go at the output settings. Yeamh, i'd be happy if it would start rendering at all and give me an error file, but it won't. I tried deleting the two video footage files before, but it didn't help if i remember correctly. But as i said, i'll give it another shot.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05:25 pm

If you used any shy layers via the little Kilroy-looking Shy Guy icon, don't forget to check them, too.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 9:14:58 pm

Check and check, nothing helped. Any point uploading the hole thing for someone to have a look? Then again, that wouldn't help really.



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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Dave LaRonde on Jun 25, 2008 at 9:24:38 pm

[Silver Adamson] "...that wouldn't help really. "

Nope. Now it's time to start looking at other things:
• Make sure the audio sample rate of your files and the AE project match, e.g. 44.1 kHz with 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz with 48 kHz.
• If you have Open GL activated, turn it off. Never mind what the Adobe propaganda says, Open GL is virtually useless in AE.
• Got any compressed audio (mp3, etc) in an audio track of a video file? Change it to wav or aiff.



Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Silver Adamson on Jun 25, 2008 at 9:32:40 pm

Okay, a little progress, the sample rates didn't match indeed. The audio sample rates were 48 kHz, not 44 as set. But still, didn't start rendering. Open GL is turned off and all the files are .wav format.



Here are the settings from the log file -

Adobe After Effects v8.0x247 (Windows) render log for project “Untitled Project.aep”

Rendering started on 26.06.2008 at 0:41:29


26.06.2008 0:41:29: Starting composition “Work Comp”.


Render Settings: Best Settings
Quality: Best
Resolution: Full
Size: 720 x 480
Proxy Use: Use No Proxies
Effects: Current Settings
Disk Cache: Read Only
Color Depth: Current Settings
Frame Blending: On For Checked Layers
Field Render: Off
Pulldown: Off
Motion Blur: On For Checked Layers
Use OpenGL: Off
Solos: Current Settings
Time Span: Work Area
Start: 0;00;00;00
End: 0;00;05;15
Duration: 0;00;05;16
Frame Rate: 29,97 (comp)
Guide Layers: All Off
Storage Overflow: On
Skip Existing Files: Off

Output Module: Lossless
Output To: C:Documents and SettingsS`lverrrDesktopWork Comp_2.avi
Format: Video for Windows Movie
Output Info: No Compression
Embedding: Project Link
Output Audio: 48.000 kHz / 16 bit / Stereo
Channels: RGB
Depth: Millions of Colors
Color: Premultiplied
Stretch: -
Crop: -
Final Size: 720 x 480
Profile: -
Embed Profile:

Post-Render Action: None





Render stopped by user.

26.06.2008 0:43:27: Finished composition “Work Comp”.



Total Time Elapsed: 1 Min, 51 Sec

Log closed on 26.06.2008 at 0:43:27

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Re: AE won't render with audio?
by Nicky Tilly on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:30:12 pm

Hi Silver, Did you ever find a solution to this problem. I am experiencing the exact same thing - thanks

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