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Concatenated String Effects.
by Joe Pallagio on May 11, 2008 at 6:55:57 am

Rather odd question, but here goes. I'm doing a music video where I have actors shots on GS and I am doing a 90 degree curve dolly track move around them. The female has blowing hair and what I am trying to to is come up with a way to link her slow motion blowing hair to some sort of string particle type of effect much like Trapcode Form using the right strings preset or something to that effect. I am just racking my brain and having a hard time coming up with a way where her hair moves would somehow drive these 'strings' and they would move based on that movement from the hair source. The basic idea is that her hair turns into these strings and the strings move from her head and offscreen. Any ideas would be very helpful on how to do this in AE. If you have any questions or I have not described it well enough please let me know and thanks in advance.

Joe

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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Dave LaRonde on May 12, 2008 at 3:17:26 pm

Aw, jeez, you mean you shot and just took it as an article of faith that somehow technology would provide a fast & easy answer?

Didn't you figure out how to do it -- or even ask here how to to do it -- so that you wouldn't be disappointed later?

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When you're out on a shoot, and you say, "we'll fix this in post" without knowing PRECISELY HOW you're going to fix it in post, don't shoot it! You'll only end up shooting it over again.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Joe Pallagio on May 12, 2008 at 7:40:20 pm

Lol, ya if only I would have been there when they shot it. Either way I figured it out. Thanks for the input.

J



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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Dave LaRonde on May 12, 2008 at 8:40:14 pm

[Joe Pallagio] "Either way I figured it out."

Do tell! What did you end up doing? I'm going to guess that it wasn't easy, nor a whole lot of fun.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Joe Pallagio on May 12, 2008 at 11:50:54 pm

Well I had to create a trapcode particular effect for certain strings. I set them to no velocity and a high amount with some wind headed in the direction the hair was blowing. Then I tracked the emission point to certain points on the hair. This made the string have the effect on down the line of the hair movement that created it. I did a few of these and then created a strings pattern and expanded the matte of the actress and blurred it and used that to drive a displacement map of the other particles so they inherited the movement of the hair. Mixing these with the tracked particular strings did the trick and created the correspondence.

Joe



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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Dave LaRonde on May 13, 2008 at 7:10:17 pm

Ugh. Complicated. I bet tracking hair on a 90-degree arc wasn't much fun.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Mark Landsburger on May 15, 2008 at 1:50:05 am

Sounds very cool. I would love to see the outcome. Is it available on the web?



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Re: Concatenated String Effects.
by Joe Pallagio on May 17, 2008 at 6:48:30 pm

Mark,

Not yet, but once we finish the project in a couple months it will be and I'll post a link.

Joe



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