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is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by johnsabbath on Sep 26, 2007 at 4:03:21 pm

864X486 when i do this in after effects it looks good when i render and bring into final cut the image is cut off at the bottom...fcp is set to animorphic. do you know how to fix this....in AE or FCP

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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by sam.mltn on Sep 26, 2007 at 4:09:21 pm

what is your fcp frame size? the comp height should match.

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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by Steve Roberts on Sep 26, 2007 at 4:17:13 pm

864x486 is not anamorphic. It is square-pixel 16x9, which is not anamorphic.

Non-square pixels would be anamorphic, say, 720x486 widescreen.

If your FCP comp is 720x486 widescreen, you should have rendered with a D1 widescreen comp preset in AE. Then select anamorphic in FCP.

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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by johnsabbath on Sep 26, 2007 at 4:35:03 pm

sorry ..is 16x9 the same as anamorphic?

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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by Steve Roberts on Sep 26, 2007 at 5:06:00 pm

Nope. Anamorphic basically means "squeezed". Technically, it refers to film shot with a squeezing lens (wide-to-narrow) that is then unsqueezed (narrow-to-wide) with a lens when projected.
The video we shoot is often called "anamorphic", though it should be called "widescreen".

Video cameras (DV) shoot 720x480, but for widescreen, the pixels are rectangular (1.2 to 1), which means that 720x480 comes out wide with those pixels. Normally, D1 has pixels that are 0.9 to 1, giving you something that looks 4:3 on a TV.

So.
If you are going to DVD, your FCP sequence should be DV widescreen. Anamorphic. Whatever FCP calls it. Anything you put into that sequence should also be 720x480 widescreen. So you'd render a DV widescreen comp in AE, and send it to FCP, click "anamorhic" and all is well.

864x486 is a widescreen frame that looks "normal" when working on a computer, since its dimensions are a multiple of 16 and 9, and the pixels are square. However, this frame is meant for working, since there is no video format that works in that size. You need to drag that comp into a 720x480 widescrren or 720x486 widescreen comp in order to render something that other apps can use effectively and output to tape or DVD.

Search the COW tutorials for Rick Gerard's article "Dr. Strangepixel" or "Pixel Madness".


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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by Dave LaRonde on Sep 26, 2007 at 5:13:29 pm

Okay, let's get some straight answers:



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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by johnsabbath on Sep 26, 2007 at 6:55:51 pm

so i digi in fcp using dvcpro50 animorphic..set the sequence to animorphic and the my monitor to 16x9. the images look fat. the beta tape that i'm using was originally shot on HDV then a dubbing house sent it to me on beta sp with a label that says widescrean 16x9, they said that they did not do any aspect ratio convertions.

i also digi a clip just as a test in 4x3 and to me this looks better...should i be concerned of anything..would this be widescreen or 4x3???? if i edit in 4x3 and the footage looks good should i be aware of anyting when i master to tape in beta sp....please let me know..

i forget to mention when i play the footage from the beta sp deck...that's where i would see the letterbox on my braodcast monitor. when i put the monitor in 16x9 mode the image squished. is this footage 16x9 or 4x3?


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Re: is this a good comp size for 16x9?
by Dave LaRonde on Sep 26, 2007 at 8:53:16 pm

[johnsabbath] "...when i play the footage from the beta sp deck...that's where i would see the letterbox on my braodcast monitor. when i put the monitor in 16x9 mode the image squished. is this footage 16x9 or 4x3?"

When you play anamorphic footage from Beta SP in a standard-definition 4x3 monitor, it should look squeezed horizontally, and it should fill the screen (not screan--learn how to spell and capitalize).

When you play anamorphic footage from Beta SP in the SAME monitor set to 16x9 mode, it should look fine, and it should be letterboxed.

It sounds like the dub house sent you letterboxed video and NOT widescreen video.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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