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AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!

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AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by Dave LaRonde on Dec 4, 2006 at 9:52:57 pm

If you're new to AE, you might be used to exporting to get things from one application to another. So you'd think the way to get animation out of AE is by exporting, right? Wrong. Usually, exporting isn't the best choice.

You see, in AE there are TWO ways to create files for use in other applications, exporting and rendering. In AE, the two terms are not interchangeable, because they represent two broad file creation options. Exporting is almost always the down-and-dirty, limited-choice, one-at-a-time file creation option. Rendering is the sophisticated, choice-filled, customizable, batch-processing file creation option.

There aren't very many universal Words To Live By in AE, but there is one rule of thumb that you'd do well to learn:
"If AE gives you a choice between rendering and exporting, it's almost always better to render."

Why?

1) More Choices -- Try this test: create a comp of your choice, then duplicate it. Export one of the comps, and notice the range of choices available to you. Now add the other one to the render queue: you'll note that you have LOTS more choices of what to do, giving you a range of choices for virtually any need.

2) Customization -- You'll note that when you add your comps to the render queue, you have two things you can adjust: the Render Settings and the Output Module. Each one lets you create and save your very own settings, a very handy thing to have.
What if you need to create a lot of alpha channeled quicktime movies? Create a custom Output Module for that very purpose!
What if you want to include audio in your quicktime move? No sweat. Make an output module for that purpose?
Want to make 23.976, film-frame-rate footage into 29.97 TV frame rate video? Make new Render Settings to do that.
Best of all, you choose the default render settings and output modules: just set 'em and forget 'em!

3) The Only Choice -- There are some things that you can do only in the Render Queue, such as adding 3:2 pulldown to 23.976 footage, as mentioned above. And it works slicker'n snot on a doorknob.

4) Batch Processing -- Too Cool For Words. Are you getting sick of exporting a big comp, then waiting for several minutes to finish? What if you had a bunch of comps to get done? Hey, just add 'em to the Render Queue! If you've set your default Render Settings and Output Modules, just add 'em one after another, save the project, and then you can render when YOU want to... like overnight, when you're having fun and the computer isn't doing anything.

5) Exotica -- Wouldn't it be cool if you could make an animation AND attach the AE project right to it? You can do that in the render queue. Wouldn't it be slick to make a quicktime movie AND an image sequence of the same thing at the same time? No sweat in the render queue; in fact, there are a couple of ways to do it.


Now there ARE a few things that you can't do from the render queue. You can't make AIFF files, for one. Or WAV files.
And there are others. But they're few and far between.

So: repeat after me:

"If AE gives you a choice between rendering and exporting, it's almost always better to render."

Class Dismissed.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by Aharon Rabinowitz on Dec 4, 2006 at 9:58:19 pm

This is great (and sage) advice. I'm going to point my students to this post. Thanks!

But I do want to mention that new to AE 7 is the ability to render as WAV. You may have missed it becasue it was not available previously, and no one ever made a big deal about it once it was there. Secretly, however, I did a small dance.

Until 7 I had to render as either AVI or Quicktime with no video, but thankfully Adobe saw the wisdom in adding the WAV format. Still no AIFF though.

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by Dave LaRonde on Dec 4, 2006 at 10:26:43 pm

[Aharon Rabinowitz] "...new to AE 7 is the ability to render as WAV. You may have missed it because it was not available previously..."

Oh, you bet I missed it: I'm still using AE 6.5! One of these days I'll catch up to the rest of the world.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by Arson XL on Dec 5, 2006 at 5:42:45 am

Please add this post to FAQ post COMMON AFTER EFFECTS QUESTIONS -- PLEASE LOOK HERE FIRST

http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=2&postid=889168

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by thehardmenpath on Dec 6, 2006 at 4:32:15 am

In the pro version there's an alert popup, if you export you get told that the render queue has a lot more features.

btw... is there a way to export flv files through the render queue?

I haven't found it yet and when I export to flv I get the alert as well.

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by jimmybee500 on Dec 6, 2006 at 5:29:28 pm

This stuff is all very true...BUT..

If I always use the same O/P settings (ie: best qual/full res, progressive D1 PAL 25fps, no audio, uncompressed AVI for instance) isn't it just the same (and quicker) me saving the RAM preview rather than adding to render queue?

Don't get me wrong - I've ALWAYS used render queue, but only just saw this 'save RAM preview' option today (!?!) and thought I'd try it. It's instant as long as your whole comp is cached. Whereas if I've just preveiwed the whole thing, which has taken me 5 mins, then I'm happy with it and want to render out then I have to wait another 5 mins for the render. When the client's sat right next to me tapping their watch I know which I'd prefer!

Though, Mylenium mentioned possible Open GL problems with saving RAM prevs? Though OGL isn't something I really use, it could scupper me if I did no?

But I mean, apart from all the options afforded with render queue, are there any other quality/accuracy benefits over RAM prev? And *IF* I've already previewed the comp at full res shouldn't AE remember that and zip through the render at the speed of light anyway?

Mine doesn't. Could I have something set up wrong?

My (probably very wrong) 2cents!

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by Dave LaRonde on Dec 6, 2006 at 6:29:43 pm

Well, that's just dandy if you your RAM preview is abosolutely, dead-on perfect. It's also fine if you have enough RAM to preview the entire comp.

But what happens if you have two of HD video to RAM preview? Unless you run AE on a Department of Defense supercomputer -- re-written to use a terabyte of RAM -- you can't possibly RAM preview the whole thing! You HAVE to render it out!

Here's another one: what if a RAM preview reveals that there's this one, tiny little thing you screwed up? What if you KNOW you can fix it without doing another preview? I don't know about you, but that happens to me all the time! What are you going to do in that case: wait around for another RAM preview, then save it once the preview's done... or simply add it to the render queue and start rendering?

Saving RAM previews are fine if you have short, little pea-shooter comps. Otherwise, RENDER!

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Re: AE Newbies: Don't Export, Render!
by jimmybee500 on Dec 8, 2006 at 12:01:34 pm

Totally Dave. I'm only really talking about SD comps that will be under 30 seconds usually. We aren't HD yet (why the hell not I hear you cry!?!) and for anything more complicated/longer I'd certainly render. In fact, I'll probably just render anyway as I always have done..I just wanted to check that if I'm really up against it timewise and it's suitable, whether I can just use my RAM prev.

As I thought, it's most certainly a horses-for-courses type of thing!

Thanks for everyone's info/help on this. I can always rely on the Female Bull for no bull!

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