can FCP Add P2 clips together?
by David Mcsween
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Jun 8, 2008 at 7:15:33 am
I'm sure that having seperate clips from the P2 cards is usefull but not here in News Curent Affairs land. I find that searching a single reel in the source window (with markers per shot) is waaaaaaay faster than column sorting/searching.
Is there a way to stick all the clips together back to back in selected order. Of cource I want it to be a match frame-able single clip rather than a nest that may not have the right timecode (ie. timeof day timecode).
I though about making a (?) multiclip but this would put big holes between TOD shots.
Any Ideas?
Apparently Grass Valley Aurora will do just this on import (we are getting this system to go along with FCP, anyone got tips for that software?)
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by david mcsween on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:10:00 am
However I dont want to use the compiled sequence (nest) to cut from, You can have match frame problems and nest errors, where FCP cant work out the location of the original. And Adding effects based on reel is more fiddly than doing it to a single clip (ie. puting the effect on the contents of the nest rather than the nest itself. I guess though you could edit with the Overwrite Alt key, the one that breaks the clips out of the nest but how do you search timecode if there is Time Of Day TC in the nest. The Nest wont reflect that on a simple TC search will it?
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by Noah Kadner on Jun 10, 2008 at 4:25:49 pm
In that case you need to change either your NLE, your camera or your editing methodology. The last thing P2 and FCP are designed for is shuffling through whole tapes linear style. The workflow is clip by clip.
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by David Mcsween on Jun 11, 2008 at 5:42:35 am
Thanks, apparently Grass Valley's Aurora edit system can infact import all the clips as a continuous piece.
I just wonder how you effectively search, based on Timecode, through a bunch of clips in a Bin?
we don't have the time to log clips with different names all the time, and I thought that the camera breaks up the continuous recordings anyway (not just at button on/off) even after a reframe for example.
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by Tom Klein on Jun 12, 2008 at 12:04:13 pm
Hi David,
FCP I don't think is your platform that can do this, I have two FCP's set-ups and shoot P2 (sometimes for Auntie down south).
I set up a windows lappy with Premier 3.1 and it works well with the raw P2 files, (something as yet FCP won't do, and I suspect will never do). Apple are sticking to Quicktime and that's their choice.
Give Premier a try you may like it out in the News field, assemling, cutting and laying back to a P2 card is pretty cool, and cheap.
Cheers
Tom K
olinevideo.com.au
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by david mcsween on Jun 13, 2008 at 2:35:55 am
Thanks Tom, Aunty has purchased 2 edit solutions (Grass Valley and Apple) to go with P2.
For anything other than the News and 7.30 Report (I think) we are using FCP exclusively. So we are making, in some cases, documentarys with P2 (which is great but) with the tight turn arounds of weekly episodic TV.
The platform is not negotiable.
I wondered if it is possible to make all the clips I want from a P2 card become "spanning clips". Then FCP would see all the individual elements as one.
The reason for this is the tight turn around times I mentioned above. As a work practice it is much easier/quicker to scrub a single long clip (or search via TC) ratjher than scroll up and down through a bin or even a number of categorised bins.
Re: can FCP Add P2 clips together? by Tom Klein on Jun 13, 2008 at 3:04:33 am
Hi David,
I wondered if it is possible to make all the clips I want from a P2 card become "spanning clips". Then FCP would see all the individual elements as one.
---- Do you ingest them into your FCP as Quicktime files, or keep them as MXF files. ? FCP only uses Quicktime, at this stage who knows if that will change over time.
The reason for this is the tight turn around times I mentioned above. As a work practice it is much easier/quicker to scrub a single long clip (or search via TC) ratjher than scroll up and down through a bin or even a number of categorised bins.
----(Tight Turnaround-Aunty ? try freelancing) If you ingest as Quicktimes from the P2 cards I would Keep all card folders in their seperate bins in the Browser, and then drag all clips from every card into a sequence consecutively, that should give you a full length of all vision you have, in their seperate clips.
Time code can be seen by turning it "on" in the Canvas window, ( Show Timecode Overlays).
It's ever so important to do "good house" keeping with your card files, after a while it's a reflex.
ther'e more experienced people than I on these forums, no doubt they will chime in.
