HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow
by Leif
on
Jul 25, 2006 at 5:24:29 pm
Please help me avoid a potential nightmare.
I am working on a documentary which ultimately needs to be delivered on D5, 1080p, 23.98 fps format.
We plan on using the HVX-200 w/ the FS100 drive to shoot and FCP 5.1 (with KONA LH) to edit.
My question concerns workflow. Should I shoot 720p 24fps, edit using these settings then up-convert? If so, is this a render up-convert, or a terranex up-convert? Or, should I shoot 1080p 24fps and edit w/ these settings?
Overall, I guess my question is, is this workflow even possible? Our first day of shooting is this weekend (7/29) so I have a little time to experiment. Any advice or insights will be greatly appreciated.
Re: HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow by Shane Ross on Jul 25, 2006 at 5:32:00 pm
I have the same deliverable...slightly different format. 1080p HDCAM at 23.98. We shot 720p 24PN and are editing in a 23.98 timeline. When I need to output the show to tape, I will copy and paste the sequence into a 10-bit uncompressed HD timeline running at 23.98...resize and render. Then I will do all my color correction. The software upconvert (render) is VERY good. You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between footage upconverted and rendered and something captured at uncompressed. And really, if you shot with the HVX this is the only way to go. Outputting to tape and upconverting with a Terranex works to I suppose, but is really not necessary.
The only issue I have is that FCP does not provide a DROP FRAME TIMECODED TIMELINE at 23.98...even though D5 and HDCAM have that option on their decks. Makes timing a show for broadcast VERY difficult.
Since you are working with the Firestore and not P2 Cards, I would say do the 1080i/24PA and drop the extra frames on import to FCP. 720/24P on the firewire out put is the very same data rate and you would have to render out the frames with the Frame Rate Converter.
The 1080/24p does have a little more resolution and that will pay you back on the conversion to D5 HD.
Good Luck,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems
Re: HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow by Don Wilson on Jul 25, 2006 at 8:04:10 pm
Shane,
Are you reffering to the render in FCP to upconvert or are you using a plug in? I have to do the same thing from the same format to deliver to film festivals for HDCam projection sources.
Re: HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow by Don Wilson on Jul 25, 2006 at 10:24:28 pm
Thanks Shane, what I figured. Got a new Quad with Kona 3 and this thing is amazing. I made a deal to exchange for a small "restocking" fee for the new Intel G5 if they come out within 90 days but I don't know man, this thing is so solid and the first time I've been able to say that in years. I had a 1st generation Dual 2gig and it was problematic from day 1. Would you use the Kona to upconvert on output instead of rendering in FCP or is that asking for trouble?
Re: HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow by Shane Ross on Jul 25, 2006 at 11:09:49 pm
[Don Wilson]"Would you use the Kona to upconvert on output instead of rendering in FCP or is that asking for trouble?"
In many instances I would use that handy feature. In this case, I wouldn't as I have a lot of color correction to do. Colorizing to make the recreations stand apart from the B-Roll and interviews. For that I want to work in a 10-bit uncompressed workspace. But for simple cut projects where there isn't a lot of color grading to do, I'd use it in a heartbeat.
DROP EXTRA FRAMES ON IMPORT (Re: HVX200/FCP/1080p Workflow) by Leif on Jul 26, 2006 at 6:00:19 pm
" I would say do the 1080i/24PA and drop the extra frames on import to FCP"
Thanks for the helpful response, Jan.
Could you please tell me how to "drop the extra frames on import". Is there a setting somwhere? Is this a FCP 5.1 option only?
It's very likely I'm looking right at it and just missing it.
