Setting up for the HVX200
by Harry
on
Nov 22, 2005 at 6:55:50 pm
11/22/05 10:48 AM
OK. I've ordered my HVX200 with two 8 gig cards, and I'm apparently number 14 on the waiting list at Birns and Sawyer in LA. I've also ordered a Dell 24" monitor and a Decklink HD card. I already have the latest Final Cut.
My first question is: do I need anything else to get up and running shooting 1080p and transferring files into FCP and playing them back on the Dell? This HD stuff is all new to me.
Further, about storage: I'm somewhat torn between buying two G Raids which would give me 2 TB and cost $2159 after discounts, and buying a Maxupgrade Internal Maxconnext 2TB SATA Raid at $1,779. Although the SATA array is a little cheaper, it will mean monkeying around installing a bunch of junk inside my Mac, and that makes me a little nervous.
Please take pity and unload your opinions on a mere mortal.
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by toke lahti on Nov 22, 2005 at 10:44:14 pm
Where do you even need decklink?
Or are you mastering to tape through hd-sdi?
For the storage, if you are doing any bigger/longer productions, I'd suggest anything with raid5.
Every hard disk will break down and if you are having lots of productions, it will propably break down in the middle of production.
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Craig Seeman on Nov 23, 2005 at 5:30:03 am
[toke lahti]"Where do you even need decklink?"
Would Decklink help to do real time downconverts to BetaSP or DigiBeta?
Don't forget one may need to deliver a high end SD version too. One could buy the Decklink and rent the deck as needed.
Question is what does one do for archival until BluRay recording arrives in the USA.
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Craig Seeman on Nov 23, 2005 at 2:45:18 pm
Yup, I've heard that. My conern is portablility too. 20 years from now, I'm guessing I'd still be able to find a Disc player that can read an old format. Not sure if that'll be the case with some of the data tape drives. I can imagine what some folks are going through who backed things up on the oldest Syquest drives.
you can find 250gig drives for 69-99.. 300gig 89-119 ..
400gig 179-229 ...
either 2 bay or 4 bay can be used as RAID 0 or individual drives ..
note that raid 0 over 1394b is NOT any faster then (non raid) individual drives ( 7200rpm ATA/SATA) made in 2005) infact i have found RAID 0 to be slightly slower ( 10-15%) then indiviual drives over 1394B .. with raid 0 you do get a slight increase over 1394a
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Ed on Nov 23, 2005 at 4:32:47 pm
To monitor in HD on that Dell, you'll need a way to get your SDI signal to it. The Blackmagic HDLink does that.
As for the drives, if you're a G-Raid fan, why not go with the G-SATA instead. I personally would put together
an external SATA II array for the best performance. There are lots of cases, drives, and cards available. And it's
easy, install the card, put the drives in the case, stripe them and go.
Ed
[Harry]"OK. I've ordered my HVX200 with two 8 gig cards, and I'm apparently number 14 on the waiting list at Birns and Sawyer in LA. I've also ordered a Dell 24" monitor and a Decklink HD card. I already have the latest Final Cut.
My first question is: do I need anything else to get up and running shooting 1080p and transferring files into FCP and playing them back on the Dell? This HD stuff is all new to me.
Further, about storage: I'm somewhat torn between buying two G Raids which would give me 2 TB and cost $2159 after discounts, and buying a Maxupgrade Internal Maxconnext 2TB SATA Raid at $1,779. Although the SATA array is a little cheaper, it will mean monkeying around installing a bunch of junk inside my Mac, and that makes me a little nervous.
Please take pity and unload your opinions on a mere mortal."
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Graeme Nattress on Nov 23, 2005 at 9:55:41 pm
You can monitor back through the camera and out component HD into the Dell monitor. No need for a HD card at all. Similarly, the Decklink HD, if you do use one, has comnponent HD output which would go into the Dell. I use a 23" Apple, so I use the HDlink. The other adv of the HDlink is the control panel for calibration. But it's not necessary with the HVX200, nor is the Decklink.
Graeme
- www.nattress.com - Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Ed on Nov 23, 2005 at 10:16:32 pm
The D4 connection certainly does work for that, and just like some folks use their camera as their tape deck too, it's an option
you may want to choose.
I couldn't imagine tying up my camera just to use it as a monitor link though. My camera person would kill me, and without a camera she'd be out of
a job too. :-) "Sorry Wendy, until I'm done editing there'll be no shooting"
Ed
[Graeme Nattress]"You can monitor back through the camera and out component HD into the Dell monitor. No need for a HD card at all. Similarly, the Decklink HD, if you do use one, has comnponent HD output which would go into the Dell. I use a 23" Apple, so I use the HDlink. The other adv of the HDlink is the control panel for calibration. But it's not necessary with the HVX200, nor is the Decklink.
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Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Graeme Nattress on Nov 24, 2005 at 1:55:45 pm
And you're right - that's where the Decklink comes in handy, but not precisely necessary. There's many a cash starved person who's relied on their camera for this purpose over the years.
Graeme
- www.nattress.com - Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
Re: Setting up for the HVX200 by Ed on Nov 24, 2005 at 3:08:56 pm
Been there! :-)
Ed
[Graeme Nattress]"And you're right - that's where the Decklink comes in handy, but not precisely necessary. There's many a cash starved person who's relied on their camera for this purpose over the years.
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