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Does a glass-lens increase the amount of light entering the camera?

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Neil RedmanDoes a glass-lens increase the amount of light entering the camera?
by on Jul 25, 2012 at 1:41:39 am

I had this discussion the other day with a friend of mine:
We saw this really cheap analog camera that was entirely out of plastic and even the lens didn't have any glass it was just a single piece of plastic at the front.

So my friend argued that there was no way that the camera could properly expose an image because the light entering the camera without a glass lense focusing the light wouldn't be enough. His point was that the lens would actually help to get more light into the camera.

My point was, that the lens' purpose is only to focus the light so that the image appears sharp on the film plate. In my opinion the image could be properly exposed but just wouldn't be sharp at all, kind of like a pinhole camera.

I'm not quite sure so, so I wanted to pose the question to you guys:
So you have two lenses that have the same aperture and focal length and use the same exposure time on both as well as the same film. The one is 'proper' glass lens, the other just is one piece of plastic (or has no element at all for that matter). Would the exposure be the same on both images?


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Jonathan ZieglerRe: Does a glass-lens increase the amount of light entering the camera?
by on Jul 25, 2012 at 5:06:02 pm

Nope. The exposure would be different, but there are tons of other factors besides what the lens is made of. For example, most lenses are made of glass, but not all glass is alike. The same with plastic. There are coatings for UV, IR, color correction, indices of refraction, focal lengths, aperture blades, et al.

In your example with the camera with the plastic lens, the only real way to tell which lens is faster is to do a proper test. The plastic lens may be made of the right material to transmit light and have no other inhibitors and could actually be a faster lens - albeit with a limited application range. If its just the one element, its likely the modern equivalent of a pinhole camera and the plastic lens is just a light gathering device.

Don't judge a lens by its case. Remember: the mark of a good photographer is not in what they can do when they have all of the perfect equipment, but when they have none of it. If you want some real fun, go pick up a Holga - medium format film camera for only a couple bucks. Plastic, light leaks, super cheap.

Jonathan Ziegler
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Neil RedmanRe: Does a glass-lens increase the amount of light entering the camera?
by on Jul 27, 2012 at 6:17:01 pm

Thank you for your answer. I actually took some pictures with the camera (can't really compare it to another lens since its fixed) to have a look how the images will turn out. I still have to develop the film.

Just to clarify this so: I get it that the exposure will be different and I would have to try out the lens to see which one lets more light in. I still have the basic question how a lens actually captures the light. In my friends opinion the lens kind of 'sucks' light into the camera. Can a lens do that and put more light into the camera? Say if you were to shoot without any lens at all compared to having a lens: Will there always be a little more light without a lens or more light with a lens?


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Jonathan ZieglerRe: Does a glass-lens increase the amount of light entering the camera?
by on Jul 27, 2012 at 7:48:24 pm

Okay, now we get into physics. Light is everywhere. Right now, photons are whizzing all over the place in every direction. You can only see the ones that are coming at you, of course. That's how your eyes work and how lenses gather light - fortunately, light is scattered all over the place almost all the time. The construction of a lens dictates how the light is gathered (ie: convex or concave or a prism or glass, plastic, organic proteins like the human eye... the list goes on). For a camera lens, the light that is going towards the lens hits the front surface of the lens, is gathered, focused (shrunk), filtered, reflected, apertured, and eventually comes to the image plane on the camera sensor or film. That's where the picture is made. The real explanation for this is much, much longer:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/camera.htm

The explanation at that link is really for the layman. For a more technical explanation:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/camera-lenses.htm

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_lens

Enjoy! :)

Jonathan Ziegler
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