bad HAIR day

hey everyone. i'm a little new to cinema 4d, but i'm having some MAJOR problems with the hair module.

i did a test render of a model i'm working on, moving it from left to right, and then rotating a little. the hair is penetrating the head mesh, acting really bizarre and jutting out in random directions, and it appears like some of the hair is actually moving AGAINST the dynamics, meaning: the hair is moving backwards, except the eyebrows and sideburns are moving forwards.

i've added a hair collider tag to the head mesh. is this wrong? once i've add the tag, do i have to specify anything else? i know i'm missing something. i just have no idea what.

here's the reference file rendered out.

http://thebighonkin.com/hairtest_1.mov

THE BiG HONKIN'
"The Defenders Of Stan"-lots of after effects

ok...hmm. how do i say this without coming across as a TOTAL newb.



i'm a total newb and i'm not really sure if my normals are aligned. and as far as i can tell, i haven't added any forces except turning on the collision in the hair.

like. no wind or anything.

i'm really sorry i'm so stupid. most of my LIMITED 3d work has been modeling machines or random props for compositing. nothing like this.

THE BiG HONKIN'
"The Defenders Of Stan"-lots of after effects

okey dokey.

i did an "align normals" function an re-rendered. i'm still getting similar random extreme jutting like in the first render. it appears like the hair isn't passing through the mesh AS MUCH...but it's still there.

thank you all so much for your help, i'm just totally confused as to why this is happening. i did a test render with a sphere and a hair object, doing the exact same motion, putting the hair collider tag on the sphere, and it worked like a charm...of course this was all at the defaults. is there something in the hair material that i've messed up in trying to make the hair look like it should? could it be something in the hair OBJECT itself that i've tinkered with? i'm so lost. it doesn't make any sense.

THE BiG HONKIN'
"The Defenders Of Stan"-lots of after effects

ok. this is probably the absolute WRONG way to go, but...

1. i started with this stupid program called "facegen" and used 3 pictures of my face to start building.

2. not being too pleased with these results, i took the model into zbrush and finished modeling there.

3. i pulled that into UVLayout and made the UV maps.

4. i took it back into zbrush for texturing my face onto it.

5. added hair in c4d.

the only other bit of info i can add is that A: the thing has a lot of polys. B: the hair is a few layers. is this dumb? (ie: sideburns are one hair object. eyebrows are another. then each part on top of the head is a hair object)
i'm pulling my hair out (no pun intended) trying to figure this out. short of scrapping the whole thing and starting over, which would kill my soul, i'm not sure what to do.

thanks everyone for your patience

i do have hair to hair turned on.

and i'm SURE it's a needlessly complex model. haha. i just hate the thought of starting all over again since i worked so hard on it.

would you mind if i sent it to you to check out?

THE BiG HONKIN'
"The Defenders Of Stan"-lots of after effects

thanks brian!

i'll shoot you an email once i get back to that computer. thanks for all your help.

THE BiG HONKIN'
"The Defenders Of Stan"-lots of after effects