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different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Joel Wycoff on Oct 27, 2009 at 4:15:07 pm

Ok, replay time...

Client handed me DV 4:3 from Camera one, and camera 2 was Sony with Card.
I got the MPEG2 files moved to the edit system, then also realized they are wide screen.

I understand MPEG2 is already compressed, etc...

Destination is DVD.

I have MPEG screenclip, so my main question:

What are my "best" options on output from streamclip to go INTO FCP?
A) Screensize
B) CODEC

A) Should I use streamclip to smush it to 4:3 before import to FCP?

B) I saw FCP uncompressed 4:2:2 as an output options, also MP4, etc,etc. Or should I convert it to DV before import to FCP?

Thanks in advance!!

--Joel

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Re: different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Dave Klee on Oct 28, 2009 at 7:45:36 pm

Hey Joel, I always have the best luck exporting out of MPEG Streamclip as DV (which makes a DV stream). If you can, I'd say keep your aspect ratios as they are (native) and sort it out inside final cut pro -- dealing with 16:9 standard definition can be tricky, so you might just have to manually fix those clips once you import.

Hope that helps!



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Re: different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Joel Wycoff on Oct 29, 2009 at 2:57:01 am

Thx!

One more, should I de-interlace also? This one ALWAYS confuses me. Is there a good explanation online?



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Re: different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Scott Anderson on Oct 29, 2009 at 4:24:58 pm

I would keep your files as native as possible as far through the post-production chain as possible, so no: no de-interlacing. Dave's suggestion of DV is a good one.

Why would you consider de-interlacing content that was shot interlaced to begin with?

You're in a pickle here. You've got 4x3 & 16x9 content, both in SD, destined for a DVD. You either center-cut a 16x9 out of your 4x3 camera, thereby losing resolution, or your center-cut a 4x3 out of your 16x9 shot, again losing resolution. Eventually you'll have to match the 2 cameras to each other - putting out either a 16x9 or 4x3 timeline.

If the Sony card camera were HD, it would be a no-brainer to center cut 4x3 out of the 16x9 HD. If they're both SD, it comes down to a creative choice based on your compositions - can you more easily make a pleasing cut out of the 4x3 or the 16x9?



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Re: different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Joel Wycoff on Oct 30, 2009 at 4:19:21 am

I think the interlace has me confused because when I review it on the iMac screen, it looks like an interlaced artifact(?). White sweater with dark background looks like a nit comb. Not jaggies, but fine , teeny white horizontal lines...

Is that cuz I'm looking at interlaced source on progressive display?

Thx again for the info!








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Re: different sources - MPEG2 wide and dv 4:3
by Scott Anderson on Oct 30, 2009 at 1:27:38 pm

Yep, that's the look of interlaced footage, alright. The only time that "combing" happens is when there's movement of either the subject or the camera. You're seeing the 1/60th of a second difference between field 1 and field 2. You've got it right - computer displays are always progressive. Various programs will either display the video combed like this, throw away one field during playback, or interpolate between the fields.

Since you're working in DV, the only way to see true interlaced playback is to hook up a firewire camera or deck and play back through an external interlaced TV. Or burn a DVD, and watch on the TV.



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