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Ian Liuzzi-FedunOne computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 2:44:26 am

Is there any way to have one computer part of two SANs at once?



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Juan SalvoRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 3:41:51 am

Not any officially supported way. I've heard of people hand modifying plist files to accomplish this, but it's advanced and risky stuff. That said a single San can have multiple volumes.



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Jordan WoodsRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 4:15:16 am

yes, it definitely is out of the scope of "traditional" apple supported methods... however, you can easily separate what is called your name servers with a third or separate name server that is in control of whom connects to what SAN. This is supported in the StorNext world, just not Apple. At a basic level you are modifying the fsnameserver file on all of the clients and all of the MDCs to reflect a separate and dedicated nameserver. This allows you to mount either SAN's volume. Note, you will not be able to use the Xsan GUI after this as there is no way that I know of that it will be able to know what is going on. You will be living in the realm of the command line.

Granted... I haven't done this with traditional Xsan only setups. I have done this with an Xsan with Apple MDCs and other Linux based StorNext MDCs, where the clients mounted both the Apple Xsan volume and the Linux StorNext volume.

I suggest not doing this with "live" date unless you are looking for "fun" :)


-Jordan


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Andrew RichardsRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 1:57:03 pm

[Juan Salvo] "Not any officially supported way. "

What about this?

Best,
Andy


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Jordan WoodsRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 4:00:34 pm

I think this is a very high glossy take on what Apple has offered since 2.0. They just make it look like there are completely independent sans. The wording however makes me believe they are in fact just multiple servers of the same SAN definition. Apple has always had the ability to leverage load balancing so to speak on different MDCs.

I could be completely wrong, but I "think" this example is a bit different than that separate nameserver scenario where you have 100% completely independent MDC pairs. Please correct me if I'm wrong, it would be awesome if Apple did in fact embrace the "real" multisan.


-Jordan


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Andrew RichardsRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 5:00:05 pm

[Jordan Woods] "I could be completely wrong, but I "think" this example is a bit different than that separate nameserver scenario where you have 100% completely independent MDC pairs. Please correct me if I'm wrong, it would be awesome if Apple did in fact embrace the "real" multisan."

I did some digging and you are right. It is all one SAN definition with MultiSAN because Xsan lets you define MDC succession on a per-volume basis for HA. This is a very different HA methodology than Quantum employs for StorNext. You can have more than two MDCs in an HA arrangement with Xsan, not so with StorNext.

I haven't done it, but it should be possible to use a discreet name server for StorNext with Xsan clients since they are really just coordinating fsmpm traffic. Worth testing anyway.

Best,
Andy


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John HeagyRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 24, 2012 at 1:25:19 am

We are big multi-san users. We have 5 pairs of MDCs each pair controlling 2 to 3 volumes only. It isolates issues and allows work to be done on volumes/mdcs without affecting the others.

It is a poorly named and understood even by Apple themselves.

John


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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 24, 2012 at 10:52:41 pm

So how do you get this working?



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John HeagyRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 26, 2012 at 6:19:26 pm

You simply need to add addition MDCs. One additional pair for every volume you want hosted separately. You can then set the new mdcs to be the failover to the volume/s you want to isolate. You will then failover to theses new mdcs and then deselect the old mdcs from the failover list.

We have separate fibre zones for each multi-san volume. Any client you want to mount a particular volume must be in the zone. We only zone in the mdcs in charge and the associated storage to isolate the storage and mdcs for the other volumes


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Juan SalvoRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 22, 2012 at 5:33:35 pm

There you go. Not sure if that's what the poster had in mind. For some reason I thought he wanted to run multiple sans from the same controllers.


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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: One computer with two SANs
by on Mar 27, 2012 at 4:25:51 am

Yeah - I wanted multiple sans



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