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Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?

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Ian Liuzzi-FedunIts a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Jan 9, 2012 at 12:22:10 pm

Somehow the following has happened:

I have a MacPro with a Dual 4gb Apple LSI fibre card and a UL5D (Attotech SCSI card). Somehow my MDC is detecting a LUN coming from one of the volumes on that SCSI card. It is a weird size as well - not the full size of the raid, not even a full size of one of the drives. I know it is coming from that comp b/c when I hit LUN properties it says G-Speed and the only G-SPEED product is that SCSI array.



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Andrew RichardsRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Jan 14, 2012 at 3:55:53 pm

Fibre Channel is just a conduit for SCSI command protocol. Xsan can see anything that uses SCSI protocol- FC, SAS, traditional SCSI, even iSCSI.

HOWEVER

It will only work as shared storage if the SCSI is switched, as it can be with FC, SAS, and iSCSI. You could technically make an Xsan volume out of your G-SPEED, but only the metadata controller would be able to touch it.

Xsan is really just a means of multiple hosts talking to the same LUNs and having a traffic cop (the metadata controller) ensure data isn't clobbered as the various hosts interact with it.

So you can just ignore the G-SPEED SCSI storage with respect to Xsan.

Best,
Andy


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Caspian BrandRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 1, 2012 at 10:44:50 pm

We have a new software product called Xtarget for OS X, which is an iSCSI Target Server for OS X. This allows you to bridge any direct attached storage over iSCSI.

You can see it in action in this YouTube video which illustrates bridging a volume to iSCSI and managing it with our SANmp software, but you could also have the LUNs managed by XSAN instead.







Caspian
Product Specialist
Studio Network Solutions

http://www.studionetworksolutions.com

http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/support/faq.php?pi=11&fi=65


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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 1, 2012 at 10:53:09 pm

COOL!!!!

Cost?
Can I share it over fibre instead of ethernet. What is your support like for setting this thing up.



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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:01:16 pm

PLUST...how ell does ISCSI work compared to AFP - any better?



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Steve ModicaRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:35:56 pm

iSCSI is definitely more efficient that AFP. We can get almost line rate with 10Gb vs 500-600MB/sec with AFP. You get the added bonus of MPIO with iSCSI meaning you can stripe.

When FCoE targets become available (Titanium's successor will support it), you also get 0 copy offloads.

Steve

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CTO, Small Tree Communications


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Caspian BrandRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 1:11:09 am

Hi Ian,

Xtarget bridges local storage to iSCSI only. iSCSI is a block level protocol unlike AFP, and depending on what type of work you're doing, can provide a performance benefit over AFP as well. The nature of block level iSCSI enables it to be an XSAN Pool as Andrew mentioned, and with block level performance you can get up to 3 streams of ProRes HQ over a single GbE port. We have some customers who have built iSCSI only XSANs, with one GbE port for iSCSI and another for Metadata. For lighter weight clients, this can provide a significant cost savings over FC infrastructures.

The introductory price of Xtarget is $899 for a single license. Xtarget only needs to be licensed on the computer(s) which are bridging their direct attached storage to the network. Other clients wanting to access this share will need to have a license of our iSCSI Initiator, which is $89/seat.

To reiterate, Xtarget can bridge any local storage to be visible over iSCSI, whether that be, USB, SCSI, internal SATA, eSATA, FireWire, SAS, direct attached FC, and even Thunderbolt.

You can download a FREE 14 day trial of our globalSAN Initiator / Xtarget software here:

http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/support/faq.php?pi=11&fi=51

-Caspian
Studio Network Solutions


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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 1:16:19 am

When I get some cash together for this I will definitely be going with it (assuming it works as described)



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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 1:34:28 am

I don't see the Xtarget demo.



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Caspian BrandRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 1:36:34 am

Our globalSAN iSCSI Initiator and Xtarget are bundled in the same software package.

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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 3:22:39 am

So what's the next step here? I setup the xtarget server and I've got the client installed on a client. All works but you say it will work with Xsan - how do I get this part working?



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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 9, 2012 at 11:49:22 pm

You'll be happy to know for the time your software was installed it completely screwed up my San. See here for one of the many support forum requests I made:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3710548



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Caspian BrandRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 10, 2012 at 12:14:17 am

Ian, my apologies I missed your update on this thread until seeing this one.

I'm assuming the volume you are trying to bridge is some previously unused storage connected over a local bus.

Are you trying to bridge the volume to iSCSI on the same system that is configured as a MetaData Controller?

It is best to bridge iSCSI volumes from a Mac not acting as an MDC.

Regards,
Caspian


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Ian Liuzzi-FedunRe: Its a miracle - mounting SCSI through Fibre?
by on Feb 10, 2012 at 1:02:35 am

You make a good point but the client was even crashing.



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