"Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck
by Jennifer Jones
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Aug 10, 2009 at 12:09:28 am
Hi everyone -
Thank you in advance for any advice regarding our issue. We are totally stumped!
Here's what's going on:
We are trying to play back Somy HDV tapes (the mini ones) in a Sony GV-HD700 deck, and we keep getting an error that reads "Change to correct tape format". After browsing the forums, looking at the manual, googling the problem, etc, we're still at a loss as to why we keep getting this error!
Here are the specs:
THE TAPE
The producer says the tapes were shot on a Sony HD camera, not sure which one, at 60p (but, he's "not entirely sure of that info")
THE Sony GV-HD700 DECK:
- In the "In / Out" menu, the HDV / DV select is set to "HDV" (although we've tried "auto" as well, and this doesn't work either)
- the "Component" setting is 1080i/480i (although we've tried the 480i setting as well)
- the Ilink Conv is "off"
- the "A/V -> DV OUT" is "off" (although we've tried "ON", as well).
Is there, perhaps, an issue with this tape being recorded at 60i, and the deck is only capable of playing back 29.97 or 30i? This is the only thing we can think of, but any information anyone has would be a tremendous help!
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Mike Mihalik on Aug 10, 2009 at 1:47:44 am
I've got that deck and use it with both Canon and Sony HDV camcorders.
Should be no problem if the recorded video is 1080-60i HDV, or NTSC SD video for the US model or 1080-50i or PAL SD video for the European model. The US model won't handle PAL; the European model won't handle NTSC.
Best to confirm what kind of Sony camcorder was used, and the video format. For the US model, it will handle HDV or DV tapes automatically.
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Jennifer Jones on Aug 10, 2009 at 3:06:22 am
Hi Mike, thanks for your response.
We are still waiting to hear the exact specs of the camera, but it's definitely no dice for these tapes. I tried another (working) HDV tape in the deck, just to make sure I hadn't accidentally switched it to something I shouldn't during the troubleshooting, and the test tape works fine.
So, it's something with this batch of HDV tapes.
I'll have to find out the model of camera for sure, perhaps that will shed some light on the situation.
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Brian Louis on Aug 10, 2009 at 8:11:38 am
The tapes may have been shot on a newer sony cam that records true 24p to tape, they wouldn't playback on a GV-HD700 you need one of the newer sony M series decks or a cam like they were recorded in
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Brian Louis on Aug 10, 2009 at 6:23:49 pm
There is two types of progressive on the newer cams one is the "True progressive" which records 24p and 30p to tape and "progressive scan" which records records 1080i with 30p and a 24p pulldown, the 30p and 24p with 1080i will read in most decks, for the true progressive you will need a M series deck with a AU designation auch as a HVR-M15AU, the HVR-M15U just reads the 1080i
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Jennifer Jones on Aug 11, 2009 at 2:44:50 am
Okay - Thanks again for the info, Brian -
We rented a Sony HVR-M35U - And, now, we are having trouble getting video into FCP(!)
The device control setting is: "DVCPRO HD FireWire", and we've tried various Capture / Input settings, including "DVCPRO DH 720p60", which is our best guess as far as these tapes go. No luck.
Any thoughts? Again, thanks in advance for the help / info - We thought we were in the clear when we got the deck, and now are stumped! The tapes indeed play on the deck (the video shows in the window), but we're not able to find a setting within FCP which will recognize the video. Ah, the saga continues!
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Mel Feliciano on Aug 16, 2009 at 10:40:58 pm
Hi Mike, Since you have the GV-HD700. Can you tell me how good is that deck to playback dv tapes recorded on the EP mode?. I was thinking on getting this deck to capture dozens of mini dv tapes previously recoreded on a Sony TRV-900, some of them on Extended Play. The user manual is a little confusing regarding this issue. The only VTR they advertise with this feature is the DSR-2000A. You can buy 15 GV-HD700s for the same price. Do you have any experience with this kind of problematic tapes.
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Mike Mihalik on Aug 16, 2009 at 11:46:16 pm
Mel,
I only have experience with SP and LP DV tapes. I was not aware that there was an "EP" format. I have several decks both DV and HDV, and have never come across the EP format for DV. I took a quick look at the TRV-900 manual (http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DCRTRV900.PDF) and see that according to the specs, this camcorder only has SP and LP modes. I'm not sure of where you might have gotten the idea about an EP mode. I am aware that the much older VHS format did have an EP mode, in addition to the SP, LP, and SLP modes as the VHS technology neared the ned of its life.
That being said, no issues with SP or LP DV tapes using the GV-HD700; I've recorded on both Sony and Canon camcorders using SP and LP DV, as well as 108-60i for HDV.
There are issues with progressive formats as mentioned earlier in this thread, but that has nothing to do with SD on DV tapes.
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Brian Louis on Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50:45 pm
When you say EP mode, are you refering to LP like Mike mentioned, or are you refering the extended record mini-DV cassettes that had 80 or 120 min tape lengths if LP the HD700 has a LP recording mode so there should be no problem if the tapes are acceptable to the machine, by acceptable there was a caveat about the LP recording mode that there no expectation that a LP tape would playback in another unit except the one that recorded it.
Re: "Change to correct tape format" error on Sony GV-HD700 deck by Mel Feliciano on Aug 19, 2009 at 3:14:16 pm
Mike and Brian, thank you guys for the responses. I'm sorry for the confusion, I was actually refering to the LP recording mode. To be more specific, recording on LP standard definition on a camcorder and playing back on the GV-HD700. I know that there is no issue if played back on the same device it was recorded. But LP recording is kind of tricky when mixing devices. It is good to know the GV-HD700 is that versatile.
