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HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Julian Gil on Oct 14, 2008 at 1:58:46 pm

I'm looking to get a two HD camera set up for shooting events. These are mainly 1 hr to 1.5 hr long speaking events. What I'm trying to do, is get some feedback on whether or not I should go HDV or XDCAM EX.

The cameras I'm looking at would be the Z7U and the S270 for HDV. Or the EX1 and EX3 for XDCAM.

Unfortunately, for the shoots it's always a back-of-the-room type set up. So, I have to shoot from long distances. Is a removable lens camera something I should consider for the cameras, or are their zoom capabilities with the stock lenses pretty good?

Any help or insight is appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Chris Borjis on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:29:09 pm


between the two I would choose XDCAM. It's less likely to have
a dropout than HDV for sure.




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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Douglas Spotted Eagle on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:33:02 pm

XDCAM can't have a dropout, it is tapeless.
HDV won't have a dropout either, if recorded to solid state media such as the S270 and Z7 offer.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Julian Gil on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:35:24 pm

What about corrupt files? What's the likelihood of getting a corrupt file recorded to either the SxS or CF?



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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Douglas Spotted Eagle on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:42:01 pm

What about corrupt files? What's the likelihood of getting a corrupt file recorded to either the SxS or CF?B>

dunno. Never had either. I suppose it's significantly less than the risk/likelihood of having a tape-based dropout. HDD, XDCAM, SxS, MSPD, CF...as long as they're capable of the data speed, I don't know that it matters. The system will tell you if the file is corrupting/corrupted, or if a card isn't properly inserted (I have seen this particular message).

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Michael Palmer on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:43:22 pm

I have been working with the EX series since December 07 when it first came out and I haven't had one corrupt file yet. IMO Even if you choose to record SP (HDV) with the EX series it will look significantly better due to the lager 1/2 CMOS sensors.

Good Luck
Michael Palmer

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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by David Smith on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:40:37 pm

[Julian Gil] " I have to shoot from long distances. Is a removable lens camera something I should consider for the cameras, or are their zoom capabilities with the stock lenses pretty good? "

Such capability is pretty subjective. You need to figure out the maximum focal length you'll need for your tighter shot at some distance that correlates to a "largest room" scenario. You can then go try out these cameras to see if the lens gets tight enough, or use some sort of image calculator to figure it out.

Remember to keep in mind the different image sensor sizes of these cameras. You won't have the same focal length requirement on the different cameras in order to get the same subject size in the frame.

There's a really nice calculator for this that runs on the Palm OS. I forget the name as it's been years since I used a Palm. You put in the appropriate data and it figured image size (with a picture of a person in a frame, no less) DoF, and a bunch of other stuff.

Here's one from a lens company that will do, but you'll have to figure out the subject distance in millimeters to use it:
http://www.compumodules.com/image-processing/focal-length-calculator.shtml




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Re: HDV or XDCAM EX for events.
by Julian Gil on Oct 15, 2008 at 8:17:32 pm

Hey thanks a lot to everyone I have a better idea of what I need to look for now.



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