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Upconverted DV to HDV
by joe pitts on Jun 7, 2008 at 4:56:29 pm

hello, due to our space limitations, we want to try editing in hdv, and will have material(dv, Beta, etc.) that we want to upconvert first using either the Kona 3, Multibridge pro or if it works the MXO2. Will any of these devices help FCP to realtime encode this codec? is it even possible?
thx
joe

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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Michael Palmer on Jun 8, 2008 at 2:23:53 am

If I had a choice HDV isn't what I would choose to edit with. Affordable storage solutions exist for other HD codec like DVC Pro HD and others that I would choose over HDV. Up rez solutions? Hardware will produce the best results. Teranax would be my choice to attempt DV to HD
http://www.compumodules.com/professional-video/Teranex/mini-dtv-converter.h...


Good Luck
Michael Palmer

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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Douglas Spotted Eagle on Jun 8, 2008 at 2:57:41 am

IMO, Terranex pales tremendously compared to Topaz.
http://www.topazlabs.com/topazlabs/03products/topaz_enhance/
but it is faster.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Danny Hays on Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21:34 am

Hi Douglas, I've been playing with Topaz Enhance a little in order to convert our Universal Studios queue line videos to something that looks good on HDTVs. We are slowly replacing our CRT sets to LCD HDTVs. Per the manual, I start with remove compression artifacts, deinterlace and then enlarge or double resolution. All looks good until the enlarge or double res. Do you know of any better docs or tips using this app? Thanks, Danny Hays



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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Michael Palmer on Jun 18, 2008 at 4:10:34 am

Just wanted to mention my neighbor has being up stamping all the Sony Pictures titles using the Teranex hardware solutions for all their SD - HD needs. Not sure a $350 US dollar software is the answer for working with your Universal Studios queue line videos. I would expect DSE can guide you to a better result than what you have anticipated. IMO software pales to hardware solutions.

Good Luck
Michael Palmer

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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Danny Hays on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:23:07 pm

Hi Michael Palmer,
I checked out Teranex and I didn't see any resinable hardware based upconverters or did I miss it? As far as Universal, I mean the theme parks and I'm sure we wontspent high dollar on Teranex units for each queue line as there may be 30 different Queue line video servers that need upconverting. So a software package that I can use on all of them is the way we will probably go. DVD players with the DSE chip may look good enough but their not reliable enough and would need to be serial controllable too. Topazlabs website shows some before and after examples that look great but I can't seem to get the same results yet. I can't seen to get an answer from Douglas on this so anybody else know where there are some better documentation and or workflow tutorials on Topaz Enhance? I appreciate your input though Mike. Danny Hays



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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Michael Palmer on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:43:12 am

"I checked out Teranex and I didn't see any resinable hardware based upconverters or did I miss it?"

These units are reasonably priced for what they do.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/481055-REG/Teranex_MINI_SDSTD_MINI_SD...

The AJA Kona 3 is another option.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/417388-REG/AJA_KONA_3_00_Kona_3_12_10...

Or the new Matrox MXO-2, http://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/mxo2/conversion/ this unit will start shipping soon. Retail should be about $1600

If you have the original final outputs then perhaps you should take those to a post house to up convert. I would think someone at Uni can direct you.

Good Luck
Michael Palmer

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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Danny Hays on Jun 19, 2008 at 1:58:34 am

(((If you have the original final outputs then perhaps you should take those to a post house to up convert. I would think someone at Uni can direct you. ))
What or who is UNI? Some of the originals we can get but some I will have to record analog from laser disc. IF at all possible I want to do this in house. We will allways get SD footage from marketing or entertainment that will need converting too. We have adapted a standard inexpensive PC to be a serial controlled HD server for about $500 to replace the old SD servers. I would like to look into the post house idea still. How are they doing it do you know? Danny Hays




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Re: Upconverted DV to HDV
by Joe Trepanier on Jun 19, 2008 at 1:11:02 pm

Hi Joe,


The MXO2 doesn't have any realtime encoding to any codec. The way the MXO2 works is it interfaces with QuickTime and lets QT do the encoding/decoding and thus that means the system, so the speed of encoding is system dependent.

What the MXO2 will do in realtime is scaling. The up, down and cross conversions are done in the hardware in realtime.

I hope that helps. If you have any other questions about it let me know.


cheers,


Joe





Joseph Trepanier
Matrox Video Products Group
Product Specialist

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