Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Michael Palmer on May 23, 2008 at 2:34:33 pm I'm sitting here working with my MBP and have my Z1U connected so I just tested a Print to Video HDV clip and here is what I know. The M15 Deck or any other HDV recorder (Z1U) must have the source video "Conformed" and this means that the deck doesn't have an HDV encoder so the EDL needs to conform or make an HDV recordable signal. One thing to keep in mind when working with any ilink/firewire device is you should always connect while the power is turned off with both computer and deck. I always connect the deck first then to the computer. Too many people have grounded out the firewire ports on the decks or cameras. The other thing to keep in mind is to make the proper setting to the deck first before any cable is connected, in my experience any changes while the cable is connected won't take effect. So in the menu on the deck you should find Rec In/Out and VCR should be either Auto or HDV, then ilink Conv is set to OFF. Now you can turn off both deck and computer and connect the firewire. turn on the deck then the computer open Final Cut and open your project, if your sequence is HDV 60i then you can Print to Video and have a blank tape ready in the deck, you should see FC conforming the video and then a message that will say Start the recorder and click. This is a crash edit recording. Good Luck Michael Palmer Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Mike Johnson on May 23, 2008 at 6:01:10 pm Are you just trying to preview? Or print a tape? If you are wanting to preview the video on an external monitor, you can't do it through FireWire. You have to have a card or box to process the video between your computer and external monitor. Probably the best option if you do not want to upgrade your system or external monitor is the Matrox MXO. B&H has it for $900. Or you can go with the Black Magic Intensity, which is $250, but you need an open PCIe slot and a monitor that will accept HDMI in. Both of these solutions will give you an accurate display on an external monitor. If you are not concerned about having an accurate external display, you can still work around the FireWire issue. After capturing all of your media, change your Easy Setup options to: Format: All Formats; Rate: All Rates; Use: DV-NTSC. Also be sure to change your deck settings to DV instead of HDV. Restart FCP and you should be good to go. You'll have video out, but it won't be the best quality. There are a lot of artifacts and it can be a bit choppy. If you are wanting to print a tape, you have to use the Print to Video option as Michael mentioned. I have found this article by Apple to be extremely helpful in my company's transition to HD with FCP. http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/FCP6_HD_and_Broadcast_Formats.pdf Hope this helps. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Michael Palmer on May 27, 2008 at 4:06:10 pm Jen As I was testing the other day for you I too had the first attempt fail, I don't believe Final Cut likes HDV and I would suggest you test a small sequence until you have it working. I would also check these connections and try another FW cable. How long of a piece is this? Why do you want to record back to HDV tape? is this to archive? Good Luck Michael Palmer Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Mike Johnson on May 27, 2008 at 4:39:19 pm Jen, I just did a test Print to Video and it worked with no problem. I'm using the HVR M15U, which I think, it the US version of the M15E?? Can't find much info about either. I've found that HDV is a very tricky format to work with. Here's what I went through to print to video: - Verify these settings on your deck: HDV/DV Sel - set to HDV iLink Set - set to Off - Be sure to create a new sequence after you have selected the Easy Setup options to match your recording format. In your first post you listed the settings for your sequence. Try creating a new sequence under the HDV 1080i60 Easy Setup and copy your edit into the new sequence. - When you drop your first clip into the new sequence, click No when it asks if you want to change the sequence setting to match the clip settings. For some reason, things won't work right if the sequence is changed, even if the media was captured under the same settings. Not really sure what's going on here. - After your edit is finished, set you in and out points in your sequence and select Print to Video. - Check the Automatically Start Recording option and set the rest of your requirements for the print, then click ok. Assuming there is little to no difference between the M15U and M15E, this should work. One more thought about your settings. In your first post, you show your Video Rate at 25 and your deck set to 60i. This could be your problem. Are you using NTSC or PAL? If NTSC, I believe your Video Rate should be set at 29.97 and your deck set at 60i. That's how I work. If your using PAL, then your video rate should be 25 and your deck set to 50i. Double check your Easy Setup settings - if your using NTSC be sure to set your rate at 29.97, and use 1080i60; if your using PAL set your rate to 25, and use 1080i50. Then check to be sure your deck setting match. Under the "Others" menu, there is a 60i/50i Sel setting - this is what you want to verify. If you have to make any changes, restart your system. Once you have FCP running again, create a new sequence under the correct Easy Setup, and copy your edit into the new sequence without changing the sequence settings. That oughta do it. Mike Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Mike Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:09:17 am Conforming rewrites the GOP sequence. The HDV format is written in an MPEG2 Long GOP (group of pictures) format. In short, this allows the HD video to fit within the same space as DV. When you edit in a native HDV sequence, your cuts, transitions, and effects will break the GOP sequence. In order to print to tape in HDV, this sequence must be rewritten, or conformed, to the correct standards. If your project is not going to be mastered back to an HDV tape, then your best bet will be to change your render settings to ProRes 422. You'll save a little bit of time on the render. As far as your preview tapes go, if you don't need them in HD, the best way to get your project to MiniDV is to select everything in your HDV sequence and copy paste into a DV sequence. Then you can Print to Video or Edit to Tape. Mike Johnson Final Cut Pro Editor Drury Outdoors www.druryoutdoors.com Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Mike Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 at 4:48:40 pm FCP5 doesn't support ProRes 422 rendering. Sorry for the confusion. When you copy paste into a new Dv sequence, you will have to render it. But that should go faster than conforming your HDV sequence. Basically you have to choose between conforming and rendering. Your render files for your HDV sequence will not carry to the DV sequence because the settings are different. As far as the jitter and no audio, without knowing your settings and what you did, I'm not really sure. If you have audio in your sequence and it is not muted, then you likely have an issue somewhere between your print to video settings and deck settings. For the jitter - make sure you change your Easy Setup and deck settings to DV NTSC before printing the tape. Mike Johnson Final Cut Pro Editor Drury Outdoors www.druryoutdoors.com Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: Playing out HDV 1080i60 to Sony HVR M15E Deck by Mike Johnson on Oct 1, 2008 at 4:34:13 pm Robbie, The best thing to do is convert your footage to match your delivery format. If your delivery is in SD, there is no reason to upconvert to HD, just to downconvert later. If your delivery is in HD, then you should upconvert your SD footage to HD then edit. Let me know what your delivery format is, then we can work on how best to get there. Mike Mike Johnson Final Cut Pro Editor Drury Outdoors www.druryoutdoors.com Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index