Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC?
by yetanotherguy
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Nov 27, 2007 at 1:33:30 am
Hi All,
Been working on a documentary for about 2 years all of it is shot in HDV (Canon XL-H1 @ 30F) and captured with FCP which saves it in Apple Intermediate Format (*.mov files).
Before you say, transcode it to another format, understand that that is a MINIMIMUM 1000 hour operation.. and that is not acceptable unless there is NO OTHER WAY. It would also take down my only editing station for months..
I have 6 people who are going to help in transcription, and I wanted to put it onto 6 USB Hard Drives and give it to them to watch and Transcribe on their PCs.. But I have been unable to find a PC viewer capable of watching these files.
PLEASE IF YOU KNOW OF ANY SOFTWARE OUT THERE that can do it, please let me know.. so far nothing I have tried works, not even VLC which I thought would do anything.. does anyone know of a really inexpensive editor that does HDV (AIC)? Anything that could be used with the existing captured Apple Intermediate Codec files that were HDV prior to capture..
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by ThomasLeong on Nov 27, 2007 at 4:48:26 am
My VLC plays *.mov files on my windows pc so it is curious that your version does not. Perhaps you do not have Quicktime or QuickTime Alternative installed in the Windows pc that is trying to read a *.mov file.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by zrb123 on Nov 27, 2007 at 8:59:15 am
[ThomasLeong]"My VLC plays *.mov files on my windows pc so it is curious that your version does not. Perhaps you do not have Quicktime or QuickTime Alternative installed in the Windows pc that is trying to read a *.mov file."
Not all NOV files are the same, just like not all AVI files are the same.
Quicktime is just a wrapper.
The Apple intermediate codec is a proprietary Apple Codec and ONLY comes with Final Cut Studio. A computer must have Final Cut installed on it to play a file with that codec.
And because Final Cut is MAC only, no you cannot play those files on a PC.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Zak Mussig on Nov 27, 2007 at 4:27:00 pm
Brian,
ZRB is right... it isn't a QuickTime issue on the PCs so much as it's a codec issue. The Apple Intermediate codec in in /Library/QuickTime on your edit system. There's an outside chance that copying this file to the proper location on a PC (where the other QT codec are kept) would make this codec available to the Windows version of QT and your files would play just fine. I would be completely shocked if that worked, but it's all I can think of short of transcoding your files.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Jeffrey B. on Nov 27, 2007 at 9:39:07 pm
On a Mac, copy the Apple Intermediate Codec component file located in /Library/QuickTime to the same directory on the computers you want to play the files.
I don't know how to get them to play them on a Windows computer.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Herb Tarlek on Nov 27, 2007 at 9:20:43 pm
BTW, Why are you capturing to Apple intermediary codec? You understand that while it's faster to render and edit that native HDV you are reducing your quality by a good deal?
Can the HDV Codec from FCP with read on a PC? You should try it.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Brian Findlay on Oct 12, 2008 at 12:25:36 am
Hi Sam,
No I never found a way or a player. Someone did clue me in to a great workaround for my problem. It probably won't help you if your application is different, but I'll fill you in on what I did and why.
I needed to get several people transcribing interviews I had shot, had a bunch of volunteers and no money to pay.. so I was looking for a cheap solution. My solution was to take my cheap Canon HV-30, turn the onscreen display on which has timecodes, and connect the fire wire to a DVD recorder. Total time is 1 to 1 with about 10 minutes to set it up with a DVD and turn record on. So I ended up making about 400 DVDs that have lots of annoying HDV cameras displays on, one of which is the timecode. It worked great, still alot of work but it didn't tie up my Mac, so as I sat there working, I would just occasionally swap tapes and DVDs and let it go. I'm guessing your application is different, but this is what I did.. best of luck.. Brian
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Sam Phillips on Oct 12, 2008 at 7:43:30 am
Thanks for your reply Brian,
Unfortunately my situation is different in that, I have been given raw HD footage from my wedding and I need to edit it, only it has been encoded in the AIC and I am on a PC, sadly the video guy is Italian so the langauge barrier is proving an issue when I explain all this!
Will have to find someone with a MAC and then encode in a cross-platform format
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Brian Findlay on Oct 12, 2008 at 2:54:04 pm
Hi Sam,
What's your timeframe? I have a TFTP server and a FIOS to my house, so it's pretty fast. I'm pretty flat out for the next day or so but if you want to upload it to me, I'll convert it to whatever you want, then you can TFTP it back. If you can deal with (up to, but likely less) a week to complete this, no problems glad to help. I would suggest taking one file, uploading it to me, let me convert it, then figure out what works for you. Then I'll convert the rest. I currently have a render running that will be going for about another 24 hours, but would be happy to try for you after that. Let me know. email (broken apart)
brfindla At Yahoo dot com I'm on the east coast.
Re: Does anyone know of an HDV (Apple Intermediate Format) Viewer out there for the PC? by Michael Palmer on Oct 12, 2008 at 3:05:50 pm
Can't he get the original tapes, AIC isn't the best codec to have had it transcoded to. If the tapes can't be found perhaps MPEG Streamclip could be used to convert, http://www.squared5.com/
