Beeginner editing in hdv
by flashato (Flashato)
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Oct 23, 2007 at 9:35:09 pm
Hi, First of all, I'm a beginner... I recently purchase a Sony HVR A1 U,I could not test it in HDV, i read a lot of post about some issue in editing in HDV.
I ve a notbook Dell Precision m90 4 gb ddr2,1.83 ghz,nvidia 256.My question is if i recording in HDV, What can be the difference with editing in DV?I use a Firewire cable, and edit in PPCS3, with "some" AE cs3 comp imported with dinamic link.To you have an idea this is what i do,
http://www.saiweddings.com/Nasly&Rafael/ Final product is a dvd, and flv.
And finnaly if I edit in HDV,do I have better quality even if my user do not see it in HD screen? thanks and sotty for the giant post....
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by tofutodd on Oct 25, 2007 at 9:44:13 pm
Arthur,
I thought that wedding in your link was the intro to a spanish novela at first. Very fancy.
I'm not familiar with dell models as I use Apple products, but i'd have to say I don't think your laptop would be able to handle the HDV codec. I first tried using a Dual 1.8 GHz G5 and it wouldn't handle it. Read my reply to the post above yours for some help.
As for editing in DV, I don't think you will see a huge difference in quality if you are putting it on a DVD 5 (sd dvd). Well, let me be more specific. You may, but your client may not. Your camera has the ability to convert the HDV to DV via Sony's iLink. Run a test and capture the same 60 seconds in DV and HDV and see what you end up with on a test DVD. That's you're safest bet.
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by flashato on Oct 25, 2007 at 10:57:20 pm
Thanks Todd,
I live on a small(Colombian) island and all my resources are a 56 kb modem, and people like you...Due to the cost of the tape, and the difficulty to find it here (that's why I could not test already..)I don't think editting the video in HD,by de way I will make the test you suggest as soon I receive the tape...(that's the price to pay in leaving far from the civilization)
Thanks agian Todd, and sorry for my english, I'm Italian...
Take care
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by tofutodd on Oct 26, 2007 at 2:21:55 am
Glad to help Arthur. Keep in mind, if you are shooting on a Sony camera that compresses to HDV (MPEG2) you can use ANY miniDV tape. You don't have to use the HDV tape. You can use a DVCam tape or even less expensive, a Sony Premium. There's all sorts of personal opinions out there; HDV and DVCam toting fewer dropped frames. Personally, if it doesn't eliminate the dropped frames it isn't worth it. We use the Premium with our V1Us.
And your english is great, so don't apologize. ;-)
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by tofutodd on Oct 26, 2007 at 3:59:36 am
No worries.
I'm not really familiar with your camera but reading this page (http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?id=80897) it says that it records native 1920x1080i, however, if i'm not mistaken the HDV codec is 1440x1080i. you'll have to look into that a little more.
but you can shoot on any of the tape formats i told you about. the website (listed above) says you can record to a sony DVCAM tape. that means you can record to any miniDV tape, but they want you to buy their product. you can put any miniDV tape in your camera and the camera doesn't care. you're paying for "quality" in tape with the different formats (but that's subjective).
as for what to record in? I would shoot 60. 24p doesn't mean 24 frames. there's usually some kind of advanced pull down or something. that's probably the case here. since i don't know how this camera handles 24p i'll let someone else comment. but to be safe, 60 won't hurt.
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by flashato on Oct 26, 2007 at 2:29:08 am
Hi Todd,
I received the tape, capturing 20 sec, then open PP and aparently the only difference is that in the capture window during capture I ve a message in a million language thaht said :"Capturing movie on hardrive card", so i can not see the out point in the capture window.(not a Big prob of course)
Normally I cut my main movie in several 30sec /1 minute sequences,but do you thing that's mean that my laptop handle the HDV codec? or may I expect future(bad) surprises?
thanks again for your time.
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by tangentidea on Oct 26, 2007 at 5:26:15 pm
Hi Arthur,
I use the A1 extensively -- used it as a camera operator for a documentary, several personal projects, a couple music videos, and for school. Great little camera. Not great under low light, but very durable, very practical.
I use Final Cut, but I've found that capturing and editing in HD is better than capturing in DV, even if the final product is for standard-def DVD, web, etc. If you downconvert to SD in the computer at the final step of MPEG-2 compression, you preserve much more color information, and my subjective opinion is that the final product is noticeably sharper.
Also, editing in HD for SD does give you some sneaky advantages -- my favorite is zooming in on the HD image to simulate a camera zoom or pan. I almost always shoot in HDV with the A1, even if I end up editing in DV (downconverting in-camera).
HOWEVER -- there are certain situations where it is BETTER to shoot in DV. HDV is not great in high-motion scenes. If you're shooting something with lots of moving or complex detail, consider shooting in DV, which has no motion artifacts from compression. There are certain situations where DV is higher quality than HDV.
Re: Beeginner editing in hdv by flashato on Oct 26, 2007 at 9:20:25 pm
Hi tangentidea,
thanks for your time in answer me.So if I understoud well, you suggest me to shooting in HDV and then down converting in SD in camera? (not quiet sure how to do that...)I`m very new in cameras & Settings and all that stuff.. Do I have to program the camera in a certain mode? I mean shooting in HD and the change some setting before capturing Right?.And my Project in PP do I have to open with HDV setting or...Most of my shootting are with "Tripod"(not sure if it is write correctly) so not very motion...I understoud that that is better output an MPEG2...
sorry for my confusion...and thanks you guy for help me out.
