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FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Jeffrey F. Krepner on Jun 3, 2005 at 3:32:21 pm

Oh God, I'm sure there has been a million posts about FX1 vs. Z1U. I think I'm going with the FX1 for now, and I know the differences, but there is one feature that doesn't make sense. According to a few sites that I've seen, they claim that the Z1U has real-time HD out to iLink, the FX1 has a "2 sec. delay."

How will that affect editing? Will I hear the sound from my PC's sound card 2 seconds before I see the picture being pumped out the IEEE port to the FX1, to the External Video mon?

Here is one of the sites that posts this FX1 vs. Z1U:
http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/sonyhdrfx1/compare.php

If anyone can clarify, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Jeff


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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Steve Connor on Jun 3, 2005 at 4:01:03 pm

If you are talking about monitoring computer output through the FX1 or Z1 in HDV mode, you can't! It doesn't work like that.

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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Derek Antonio Serra on Jun 3, 2005 at 5:34:11 pm

Currently you need the Matrox Parhelia or Nvidia Quadro PNY 540 which offer HD component outputs to an external timeline for PC, or a Decklink/Kona card for Mac. No live images from the timeline out through firewire as in DV when editing HDV I'm afraid!

Derek Antonio Serra
Filmmaker
www.controversifilms.co.za
www.indv.co.za

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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Jeffrey F. Krepner on Jun 3, 2005 at 7:55:44 pm

Thanks Derek.

I use SONY Vegas 6.0b and from my understand it does support full HDV editing w/ previews to external monitor. My pre-NAB understanding was that it wasn't possible, but at NAB I could swear I saw them editing on Vegas 6, straight out the IEEE to the Z1U to a HDTV. I could be 100% wrong, so please pardon my cluelessness.

I just posted to the Sony Vegas Forum and to the Creative Cow Vegas forum to find out more details.

Vegas is working very well with HDV... I think Sony has something at stake...

If anyone using Vegas can tell me otherwise, please do.

Thanks again.

Jeff


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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Jeffrey F. Krepner on Jun 3, 2005 at 8:58:33 pm

Derek, Still waiting to hear back... some of these forums are slow, or people must hate me :p.

My video card actually is a Parhelia so perhaps it could work after all. I wonder how people monitor HDV footage? I mean, I could do a Black Magic card, but then I'd have to capture at full HD resolution via component outs on the FX1. The overhead would kill me... I'd buying 10K scsi drives...

Then again, that might be the best way to go.

Head hurts.

TGIF.

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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Steve Connor on Jun 3, 2005 at 10:02:55 pm

Be patient, most of us have work to do! HDV monitoring thru Z1 does not work on ANY system so no luck there I'm afraid. Go with whatever Sony recommends for HD out in Vegas - they must recommend something?

Steve Connor
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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Derek Antonio Serra on Jun 3, 2005 at 10:29:20 pm

The triple head Parhelia will work just fine for dual computer monitors plus an external TV monitor. That's probably what Sony where running at NAB.

Derek Antonio Serra
Filmmaker
www.controversifilms.co.za
www.indv.co.za

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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Jeffrey F. Krepner on Jun 3, 2005 at 11:26:27 pm

Thanks guys, you're right. Here is what I heard back from the Vegas forum::

"No.... you cannot preview to an FX1/Z1U direct from the timeline. V6 [Vegas] did introduce a way for us to preview full-screen onto a second monitor. So if (for instance) you have a 24" widescreen HD monitor (like I have) you can preview all the pixels to that screen."

Oh, and I meant that other forums took awhile to get a reply from... besides, you shouldn't be doing work on Fridays!

Thanks and have a good weekend.

Jeff


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Re: FX1 vs. Z1U - "HD out to iLink:"
by Derek Antonio Serra on Jun 4, 2005 at 1:33:08 pm

I'm in the process of building a new HDV edit suite based on an AMD 3500+ 64X system, with a Nvidia PNY 540 video card with HD breakout box plus an additional video card so that I can run two computer monitors PLUS a HD broadcast monitor from the PNY breakout box. Does anybody have any experience configering the video cards so that I can run PP1.51 on the two computer monitors plus the external monitor?

Derek Antonio Serra
Filmmaker
www.controversifilms.co.za
www.indv.co.za

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