Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD
by Bob
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May 28, 2005 at 3:16:39 pm
Just bought Z1U and FCP 5. I have filmed in HDV with Z1U but cannot capture with FCP. FCP says its capuring but is not. Has anybody done this yet and if so how did you do it? What settings are you using in FCP?
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 28, 2005 at 4:49:03 pm
Bob:
I have the same issue - I have machine control but the capture screen is gray. Turns out this is a known issue at Apple and I'm told they're working on it. I believe this is only a problem outputting directly from the Z1U. I understand that the HDV codec works fine with the FX1. Hopefully they'll get this fixed soon.
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by Steve Connor on May 28, 2005 at 7:12:14 pm
I have tried M10, Z1 and FX1 all in PAL. i had the gryed out capture screen on the first day I was using it, but it still captured material without monitoring, however when I switched the machine on the next day, I had video monitoring during serach and capture. I am working in PAL land.
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 28, 2005 at 7:33:31 pm
Ah, lucky you. I get nothing but gray over here. I'm told this is only when trying to didge out of the Z1U and not with the M10 or FX1. Awaiting a patch...
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 28, 2005 at 8:25:07 pm
Aha, hold the press. You're right. I went back into the Z1 menu and made sure that all output conversion was off and now I can indeed capture. I'm using the Apple Intermediate codec because I want to transcode to 1080i. The capture window behaves differently - I cannot set ins and outs nor is there a batch capture - just record on the fly. But at least it works. Thanks for the tip.
[OT] Nice to see you again, John by Ron Lindeboom on May 29, 2005 at 4:04:39 pm
Hey John,
It's good to see you logging in here in the HDV forum. It's always nice to see some of the "old names" that herald back to the very beginning of our forum efforts long ago back in 1995. Hope all is well in Hawaii. How did your 3D project from years back pan out? That was some amazing footage you created.
Re: [OT] Nice to see you again, John by John Dobovan on May 29, 2005 at 4:58:47 pm
Hi Ron:
Great to hear from you too. The 3D never went anywhere but I've managed to survive anyway. Just getting my feet wet now with HDV. Learning FCP at the same time - I finally gave up on M100 after all these years. Sad but neccessary. How've you been?
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 29, 2005 at 1:00:18 am
Bob, thanks for the info but it still doesn't work on my system. I get a screen telling me that I can capture now or log offline but I don't have full capture functionality - no in and out points, no batch, etc. Or is this what you're getting also?
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by Derek Antonio Serra on May 29, 2005 at 8:07:34 pm
Yes, no wonder you're having problems capturing HDV if you've set up FCP to capture DVCPro HD! I'm trying to determine how FCP5 is actually performing with HDV, and these posts tend to be alarming. Please guys, read the manual!!
Derek Antonio Serra
Filmmaker
www.controversifilms.co.za
www.indv.co.za
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by Steve Connor on May 29, 2005 at 8:25:35 pm
Derek, I have to say I am very pleased with the way FCP is working with HDV. Until it came out we were using PPro for our HDV edits which was also very impressive, apart from a few problems with corrupted files.
Real time three way colour correction is nice, we have output to our HD monitors from a Decklink HD Pro card and picture quality after three runs to tape is looking very good. RT seems to work well and multicam HDV is real cool. It does do frame accurate editing and print to tape takes nowhere near as some people are suggesting, in fact it is quicker on our Mac system than it is is PPro. Batch capture works as well.
Another system that can handle HDV has got to be good for the format hasn't it?
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 30, 2005 at 7:22:10 am
Steve:
How are you doing batch capture from the Z1? I get nothing but a gray screen. I can do Capture Now using the Apple Intermediate codec but the HDV 1080i codec gives me nothing useful. Apple TS tells me that this is something they're working on but if you have an answer I'd love to hear it.
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by John Dobovan on May 30, 2005 at 4:07:17 pm
Aha so you're using the M10. I misunderstood, thought you were coming straight from the Z1.
I thought they were the same mechanism too, which is why I didn't spring for the M10. Figured that was an interim deck and that I may as well await something a bit more substantial. Obviously there is some essential difference because standard capture mode doesn't work at all out of the Z1. Guess this is an evil plot by Sony to force us all to purchase their M10.
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by Derek Antonio Serra on May 30, 2005 at 10:41:47 am
Steve, you seem to have a well-configured top-end system which works well. For some reason others are not as happy with FCP5 and there does seem to be an issue with the Z1, although that seems strange considering that the M10 uses the same mechanism and software. Mmmm...
I'm building an interim AMD machine with the Nvidia PNY540 triple head card and PP1.51 with the AspectHD plugin. The motherboard will accept AMD's dual core processors due out later this year. Intel M/B's out now will not be compatible the P4 dual core processors, so this is the most cost-effective solution in the short to medium term. The jump to Mac for me will be costly as everything we have is PC based. If I do go the Mac route I need to be sure that I'm getting more bang for my buck and vastly improved stability, etc to warrant it.
Derek Antonio Serra
Filmmaker
www.controversifilms.co.za
www.indv.co.za
Re: Cannot Load HD from Z1U to FCP 5HD by Jon Cairns on May 31, 2005 at 2:18:45 pm
Steve:
I'd just like to ask a couple of questions regarding your setup and workflow.
You said that you are using a Decklink card to monitor your material. Are you editing on an HDV timeline and getting real time play back via the Decklink to your JVC? Have you seen any oddities with what appears to be field issues? We have a 34" Sony XBR monitor connected to the Mac via DVI-HDMI so that we can monitor using desktop preview. On a number of captured clips playback is occasionally fine and then other times it seems it looks as if the field order is reversed. Sometime the change occurs in the same clip during playback. I thought that this might be on playback only but I exported the clips and created an SD DVD and the field order still looks to be reversed, no matter which field is set first in compressor. Admittedly, I just updated Panther to Tiger, no clean install, and then put FCP 5 on so that might be the culprit. I am going to start the installation process from scratch later in the week as time allows.
We are looking into the Decklink and Kona2 and I am trying to confirm that you can capture HDV and view it in realtime on my sony PVM-14L5/1 for color correction, etc.
