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Nigel ThompsonSmoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 11:28:47 am

Hey Guys:
Wondering about compatibility with hardware for my newe finishing system :D
Coming in September of course......

Since she works on minis and iMacs etc now.... Will the new smoke work with IO/xt from Aja ?
And would it work with the Lhi? Just a few questions I need to ask before moving forward because that new system will be by finishing system.
Also , it uses GFX cards for performance right? If so do more GFX cards boost performance? Eg Cubix GPU expander .... Which I intend to get to trick out resolve anyway.....

Thoughts comments

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Ryan HolmesRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 1:49:19 pm

The Xpander will help with Resolve for sure. I haven't seen anything yet stating how much Smoke 2013 will rely on the GPU. Once the beta comes out in June, I'm sure there will be more info.

But, how do you intend to run a Cubix Xpander on a Mac Mini or iMac? You need a PCI Express slot or an ExpressCard 34 slot to hook one up.

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Nigel ThompsonRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 2:01:43 pm

No no

Was just asking to find out if anyone knew anything about smoke working with the GPU expander ... Have all intentions of getting a Mac pro but who knows what will happen by September / October .... Maybe ill need a mobile suite .... Who knows.

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Philip OhlerRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 3:57:25 pm

Autodesk has been demoing Smoke 2013 on stock MacBook Pros and iMacs at NAB. Might say something about the future of the Mac Pro. Sonnet and Magnum are showing off PCIe expander boxes via thunderbolt.



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Nigel ThompsonRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 4:09:02 pm

Yup
Have seen the thunderbolt boxes but thunderbolt still does not 16 lane yet for the higher end GFX cards as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) but im sure it will have it soon enough .......

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Ryan HolmesRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 7:58:29 pm

Correct. Thunderbolt is only 4 PCIe lanes. It doesn't come close, yet, to the speed of your 16X and 8X lanes in your Mac Pro.

But as Philip said, what Autodesk is demoing Smoke 2013 on may be a nod to the future state of Apple computers.

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Nigel ThompsonRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 19, 2012 at 9:56:44 pm

True
I'm sure these guys have insight into stuff that's coming that we don't so im sure we'll see a 16 lane thunderbolt soon

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Eric FiegehenRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 25, 2012 at 11:31:24 pm

Hi Nigel,

Don't be too surprised if / when Cubix releases an Xpander Thunderbolt product to compete with other solutions currently geared towards specialty I/O capture and storage later this year.

Also, I think people interested in Thunderbolt need to dial their expectations down a little bit. While T-bolt is certainly an excellent technology for boosting I/O performance on MacBooks and iMacs, Apple has not yet indicated any willingness to open its iMac and MacBook BIOS to external graphics devices. Until this happens, external graphics running on a Thunderbolt device (in general production release format) are a non-starter.

The other, more technical, hurdle which has to be solved is a work around for hot-plugging discrete graphics cards into a live PCIe bus. Can you imagine the post sales support nightmare for vendors with all of the customers who will ignore correct procedure when connecting these devices? We did, and its another reason why the discrete external graphics support won't happen anytime soon.

Once you get past these two hurdles, and you can settle for PCIe x4 bus performance, you can begin to enjoy external graphics performance on your mobile Apple product via Thunderbolt.

BTW - we had a couple of Autodesk guys(among many other vendors) stop by the Cubix NAB booth last week when they heard we were running a DaVinci Resolve demo on Mac Pro...hardware acceleration courtesy of 2x NVIDIA Quadro 6000 cards connected via Xpander. Don't know if it will mean anything for Smoke 2013 or not, but they were interested nonetheless.

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Jerry HofmannRe: Smoke 2013 compatibility
by on Apr 24, 2012 at 7:24:42 pm

The Smoke 2012 demo in AJA's booth was an Io XT and iMac. The Autodesk demo artist was amazed how snappy it was. An Io XT is basically a Kona 3. (Not 3G mind you). But 3... AFAIK is the only one that loops TB cables too. So with a laptop, you could still have a second computer display with it. So if you're working in 4k, you're only solution for post is a card and tower today. Bet that changes by next year. AJA's Ki Pro 4k box is Thunderbolt. You can capture raw DPX files with it.

I think the whole group at NAB came to the realization that Towers are transitioning away from us all. Macs and before long PC's. I've a blog about this: http://blogs.creativecow.net/blog/11482/nab-2012-the-mayans-had-it-right-it...

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