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Encoding a 24P QuickTime in Compressor without Cinema Tool

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Encoding a 24P QuickTime in Compressor without Cinema Tool
by Conrad Olson on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:28:32 pm

Hi Guys,

I know there are quite a few threads on this topic but none quite answer my question.

I have a QuickTime rendered from After Effects that is at 24fps and I just simply want to create a 24fps MPEG2 file to import into a PAL project that I am creating in DVD SP.

Whenever I try and encode the file in Compressor it either gives me a 24 (23.8) fps NTSC encode or a jumpy 25fps PAL file with a duplicated frame. The frame rate box greys out when I choose PAL from the video tab. The only options I have seen involve Cinema Tools which I don't have on my laptop (didn't think I'd need it when I installed Final Cut Suite and have left the discs at the office). Why won't Compressor just encode a 24fps MPEG2 file?

I've tried using ffmpegX too but that keeps changing the size of the frame from 720x576 to 720x540. Does anyone have a solution?

Thanks

Conrad

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Re: Encoding a 24P QuickTime in Compressor without Cinema Tool
by Michael Sacci on Oct 7, 2008 at 11:05:22 pm

PAL is always 25fps so I guess one questions, was there a reason you make your AE comp. 24fps.

To get you to 25fps without adding the extra frame you can you the Frame Control Tab in Compressor. First you have to turn it on. Then set the Rate Conversion to 24 @ 25 (this slows the footage down to 96%) without adding the extra frame. You will need to do the audio to your audio also. I would do a short test pass first.

BTW NTSC video is not 24 fps but 23.98 anything staying in the video world on NTSC should not be produced at 24 or 30 fps, the correct frame rates are 23.98 and 29.97 in SD.



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Re: Encoding a 24P QuickTime in Compressor without Cinema Tool
by Conrad Olson on Oct 8, 2008 at 8:09:20 am

I am making a showreel of my work and most of the stuff I've done is 25fps but we produced one video at 24p because we knew we had to produce a version for the US. It was shot on a RED camera at 24fps. Because the video was only ever displayed on computers we never had to make a 25fps PAL version. I have tried to conform the frame rate inside After Effects but it doesn't change the audio correctly.

I've only just realized that I have the old version of Compressor (V2) too. The only options for rate conversion inside the Frame Controls tab are "Nearest Frame, Frame Blending, Motion Compensated and High Quality Motion Compensated".

Any other suggestions?



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Re: Encoding a 24P QuickTime in Compressor without Cinema Tool
by Conrad Olson on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:53:58 pm

So I've spent the morning trying different encoding solutions. I managed to get a 24fps 720x576 encode from Visual Hub but that made a VOB file. So I used MPEG Streamclip to demux that. If I didn't choose 'headed M2V' then DVD SP would claim that the file was NTSC and it couldn't import it into a PAL project. If I chose 'headed M2V' it would look like it was importing the file but then nothing happend. I've tried using VLC to demux the VOB too with similar results.

I downloaded the trial of Autodesk Cleaner but DVD SP claimed that the file from there was NTSC too. I'm guessing that all this has something to do with headings in the file but it's really frustrating that I have a file in the correct format that DVD SP won't recognise.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?



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