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DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Gerry Bimm on Jul 29, 2008 at 3:46:32 pm

Has anyone discovered a quick, foolproof solution yet to the age-old problem of dvd's coming out of DVDSP that will play on some dvd players but not others? We thought we had this problem licked but it's back again.

Last week I needed a couple of bare-bones 30 second spot dvds for a client. I did a QT Movie export from FCP and brought the files into DVDSP4 as always, deleted the menu, did a preview, then a burn. The dvds played fine on the Mac, and on our internal Panasonic dvd players. They wouldn't play on the clients machine or his computer. I'm using dvd-r discs and the default is 2x burn speed.

Has anyone discovered a foolproof way to burn a barebones spot to a dvd thats not going to come back and make you look like an idiot?



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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by eric pautsch on Jul 29, 2008 at 5:29:12 pm

What do mean by not playing? If you talking about software players? Which ones? Some are "fussy" You shouldn't have problems on a set top player. If so, then your workflow needs to be adjusted.



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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Kerry Brown on Jul 29, 2008 at 7:17:41 pm

Did you select "first play" for Track 1 after deleting the menu?



KB

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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Gerry Bimm on Jul 29, 2008 at 8:34:56 pm

Yes I did. They will not play on some Sony DVD players, mainly.



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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Michael Sacci on Jul 30, 2008 at 3:00:23 am

Since you are probably using toast since you are setting the speed, did you take the .lay and the .layout files out before you burned the disc.

I this has been posted many times.

This is what I do
1) Always burn from DVDSP (well 99.9% of the time)
2) Always use top self DVD-Rs, Maxell Plus 8x
3) always for a menu, even if the video is set to be the first play, I want the video to end jump to a menu that at least has a play again button. Unless it is a looping video but I still have a menu in case they press the menu button.)
4) Never go over 7Mbps (this is the max setting not average) I also do mostly CBR
5) Always use ac3 audio.

I have virtually zero problems other then dumb clients or me doing something wrong in authoring.





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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Gerry Bimm on Aug 1, 2008 at 1:25:40 pm

Thanks for the suggestions folks, your help as appreciated. I will start by changing my brand of dvd and go from there (we are currently using Fuji).



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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Tracey Dunn on Aug 1, 2008 at 12:49:48 pm

Gerry,
This may or may not help your problem, (it certainly won't hurt):

Tayo Yuden brand discs seem to be very consistent in terms of quality of build;
they're made in Japan, if that means anything, (I think it does).
Brand #S12199.
They are more expensive, but you can see, (and feel) the quality difference.
We've gotten them from ULine mail order, (1-800-295-5510), or uline.com
Never had one that didn't play.
The cheaper discs are made in Taiwan, China etc. some of them are so poor
that they are better used as coasters; (not joking about that).
Unfortunately, several well known stores carries the poorest quality.

You can download a disc code software reader for free, which matches up
the disc model number, and tells you where it was made; (see links below).
This can really help trace the quality of the disc, and give you peace of mind.
I was personally shocked as to how many "brand" discs are listed
in the "rated lowest quality" section.

Alternatively, if you get them stamped (at a company like Dub-it), for bigger projects,
the playability will go up; (the cost, is of course, significantly higher).

DVDs are much more "finicky" than CDs, both in playability, and durability;
(they both fly through the air about the same distance); and you'll take
some one's eye out, ( as mom said), with either.

For a grasp of how big this issue is, try:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm (brilliant, all you'll ever want to know!)

OR

http://www.best-dvd-burning-software-reviews.com/best-blank-dvd-media.asp

Regards,

T

Also second Michael's comments, although I've had good results with both VBR and CBR.



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Re: DVD's Don't Play on All Players - Quick Solution?
by Tracey Dunn on Aug 1, 2008 at 1:34:28 pm

Oops,
That should read "Taiyo Yuden"
and "carry the poorest quality".

Sorry, late night, deadline looming,
grass needs cutting, etc.

T.



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