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Help! DVD Master rejected at Replicator
by Martin Phillips on May 7, 2008 at 12:03:00 pm

Hi - never had this before but have just been told by replicators that there was an error on the DDP ID file on the DVD-R master. I presume that DVDSP records to DDP ID 2.10 so could there be a conflict if they are still on DDP ID 2.00? Also don't know how to change it if so!

Anybody got any other clues? Have re-built and will be burning again (via Toast Titanium)at x1 speed. This workflow has worked fine up until now, so has the recent Pro Apps upgrade sone something?

Thanks - Martin.

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Re: Help! DVD Master rejected at Replicator
by Aaron Kruse on May 7, 2008 at 8:13:48 pm

Try Trai Forrester at www.dvdverification.com

He does every kind of verification that there is and will be able to pinpoint where the problem is.

I do not know the answer to your DDP version question.

I would recommend, however, that you burn the DVD at no less than half the speed the disc is rated for. if you are using 16x discs, burn at 16, 12 or 8x. Burning too slow can create its own problems. Also, make sure you are using high quality discs. Verbatim, Mitsui, or Taiyo Yuden discs are recommended.


Aaron Kruse
Apple Certified Pro, DVDSP
BBC&S Video Communications
akruse@bbc.edu


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Re: Help! DVD Master rejected at Replicator
by Lucas Fazzary on May 8, 2008 at 11:11:46 am



Most important- Did the replicator give you any actual error of why they cannot premaster your master?


DVDSP can output to DDP 2.00, DDP2.10, and CMF 1.0. DDP 2.0 is the standard so use that rather than 2.10.

Are you outputting to DDP from DVDSP and the burning with Toast?

Ask your replicator if they accept DVD-R Video discs (playable). If so just Build/Format to DVD-R right out of DVDSP.

-Luke



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Burning too slow a problem???
by mortimer heathcliff on Jun 7, 2008 at 7:24:29 pm

"Burning too slow can create its own problems. " - this was news to me. I had always heard that it was best to burn the master (or any other copies) as slow as you have time for, that this burns it "deeper" into the disc and that the images will last longer on the DVD. Tell me more about this "no less than half the speed the disc is rated for" stuff. I had never heard that. I have been using Taiyo-Yuden 8X DVD-R since someone turned me on to them (usually bought from SuperMediaStore) and have been very pleased, especially compared to more popular name brand ones i used to buy at my friendly neighborhood CompUSA.

thanks again!

mh

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Re: Burning too slow a problem???
by Aaron Kruse on Jun 17, 2008 at 5:04:34 pm

I believe I first read information about burning speeds on Microboard's website in a white paper. Basically, as I understand it, you can find two different types of blank media: variable speed and fixed speed. The variable speed will be labled as a range like "1-16x," and it is made to burn at any of the speeds in the range. The fixed speed media will be listed as "8x" or "16x," and it is designed to work at the speed listed. You can be safe burning a fixed-speed disc at half of its listed speed, but not below that. This goes for CD-R and DVD-R.

I do not know a whole lot more than this. I have never talked to a disc manufacturer, but I have talked to the re-sellers quite a bit. I may have gotten some of this info in conversation with them.

I use Taiyo-Yuden 8x DVDs almost exclusively, and I burn at 8x without issues. I have thrown out only a handful of bad discs over the past few years out of thousands that are good.

Hope that helps. I would love to learn more if anyone can offer it!



Aaron Kruse
Apple Certified Pro, DVDSP
BBC&S Video Communications
akruse@bbc.edu

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Re: Burning too slow a problem???
by mortimer heathcliff on Jun 17, 2008 at 6:03:10 pm

That is terribly interesting! If it is verifiable, it would certainly save me some burning time. Hopefully a "DVD Duplication Industry Person" will see this thread and comment. Until then, I think I will start burning all of my 8x's at 8x! : ) Thanks for the tip.

thanks again!

mh

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Re: Burning too slow a problem???
by Aaron Kruse on Jun 17, 2008 at 9:02:17 pm

You're welcome!

Aaron Kruse

Aaron Kruse

Apple Certified Pro, DVDSP

BBC&S Video Communications

akruse@bbc.edu

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