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Jerry SilvermanDVDSP3 not recognizing my Pioneer DVR-108
by on Jan 16, 2006 at 5:03:57 pm

Hi there,
I have a DVD-9 project that I'm trying to build/format to DVD+R DL, but DVDSP3 is not recognizing my DVD burner!
I have 3 DVD burners hooked up to my Dual G4 -- 2 Pioneer DVR-105s (which cannot do DL) and one Pioneer DVR-108 (which can do DL).
DVDSP3 recognizes the DVR-105s, but not the DVR-108! Why is this?
I checked the system profiler -- the DVR-108 shows up, and I can burn SL discs with it in Toast 7.
How can I find out whether or not this model is supported by DVDSP3?
And even if I find such a list, why would it *not* be supported?
Yours in bewliderment,

Jerry Silverman
Engineer/Producer
Creative Bubble, LLC
jsilverman@creativebubble.com


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Andrew YooleRe: DVDSP3 not recognizing my Pioneer DVR-108
by on Jan 17, 2006 at 5:44:18 am

OS X doesn't natively support DL burners. You need to download a third party driver called Patchburn.

http://www.patchburn.de/download.html


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Jerry SilvermanRe: DVDSP3 not recognizing my Pioneer DVR-108
by on Jan 18, 2006 at 9:29:11 pm

Thanks -- got it, but it's still not burning (I'm using Verbatim DVD+R DL media).
It gets through one layer, then gives a "Power Calibration Area Error" message.

I hooked up a NEC ND-2510A by Firewire and it burned this project --
so why won't the DVR-108 burn it?

Must be a media issue...

Anyone know which media the DVR-108 likes?


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Andrew YooleRe: DVDSP3 not recognizing my Pioneer DVR-108
by on Jan 19, 2006 at 12:48:36 am

You mention that you have 3 optical drives connected. All at the same time? If so, you may simply be overloading the power supply of your machine, Try disconnecting all but the DL drive.


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Jerry SilvermanRe: DVDSP3 not recognizing my Pioneer DVR-108
by on Jan 23, 2006 at 1:57:55 am

For anyone interested, I *finally* got to burn a dual-layer disc, though there were many steps I had to take (with help from the Apple forum):

1) I had to *manually* determine the dual-layer break point,
instead of allowing DVDSP3 to automatically determine it.
This was to insure that the first layer of media had more data than the second.
Have a look at the DVDSP3 manual for exactly how to do this, and why.
I also had to make sure that "Lossless Linking" was turned off.

2) I had to Build/Format the project from within DVDSP3,
because Toast does not create the necessary formatting.

3) When I tried to do this, DVDSP3 did not recognize my DVR-108 as a device to which it could format!
Of course Toast, as a 3rd party software, recognized the drive --
but Mac OSX needs a patch in order for Apple apps (such as DVDSP3) to enable burning.
I got OSX to recognize the drive by using Patchburn ( http://www.patchburn.de/download.html )

4) Once DVDSP3 recognized the drive, and I tried to start formatting, a new error occurred:
I received a "Power Calibration Area Error" from DVDSP3's Build Log.

5)From http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/computer/faqs/faq_22.html :

A Power Calibration Error is caused by the inability of a DVD-RW drive to use a DVD-R or DVD-RW disk.

DVD-R and DVD-RW disks themselves have information written on them, within this Media ID code there is information that the drive uses to calibrate itself to the disk, when a drive first starts to write to a disk it will burn a small amount of data to a calibration area on the disc, using the calibration information in the Media ID code, and then try to read back the data that it has written. If it cannot be read, then disk will be ejected and fail with a power calibration error.

A power calibration error is normally caused by problems with the media. Should you be experiencing problems with your drive or the media, we recommend that a disk from a good quality manufacturer be used to test it.

6) So! I was using Verbatim DVD+R DL discs, which were supposedly pretty good, but they weren't working.
I picked up some Memorex DVD+R DL discs, popped them into my Pioneer DVR-108, and FINALLY the project formatted to disc successfully.
Why it didn't like the Verbatim discs will forever remain a mystery.
The formatted disc played fine on my set-top DVD player, and in the client's set-top and laptop, and we sent it off to the duplicator.

7) Ya think we'd be out of the woods, right? Friday, the duplicator calls and says:
"The 'seamless playback flag' is not set correctly and we need a new master disc from you."

8) When I authored the disc, I left the "seamless" setting "OFF" because, as it says in the DVD Studio Pro 3 manual:

"While the seamless layer change would appear to be the best choice,
some DVD players do not support the seamless feature, and may stop playing the disc once the switch point is reached.
For that reason, it is strongly suggested that you use the default non-seamless layer change setting."

9) So, I am waiting to hear from the duplicator on Monday.

Anyway, hope this is helpful to y'all.

Jerry Silverman
Engineer/Producer
Creative Bubble, LLC
jsilverman@creativebubble.com
http://www.creativebubble.com


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