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altsTimeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 2:40:57 pm


I have never felt so helpless. Just sat down at a C4 station to compare some workflow issues with AfterFX and I am lost. Three basic questions for you:

1. I have animated a mask over time. When I go to the "Timeline" tab, how do I get my keyframes to show up? I cannot figure this out for the life of me and I do realize it's most likely that ever-elusive "show keyframes button" I just have no idea where they hid it in this program.

2. If I have "Layer01" on top of "Layer02" and I mask out part of 01 so that only a portion of it is visible, how do I view the composite of both layers while still being able to see the mask and it's handles so that I may edit the mask while viewing the entire composite?

3. How do I simply mask an operator, say like a color correction, on an image?

Thank you for being the kind a patient soul you are for answering these questions...

Regards,
alts


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Kenneth La RueRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 3:06:54 pm

Hi,

To see the keyframes of any layer or operator such as a mask just select it in the workspace panel and the keys associated with it will be shown in the timeline. You can also navigate through your hierarchy with the triangle that points up above the scroll bar for the timeline and lastly yes there is a show animated only option it is found in the timeline options fly-out. It is the little triangle pointing to the right above the scroll bar for the timeline.

When you apply a mask the current viewport will be at the mask level so to see the combustion or any other level of your workspace turn on the compare option on the tool bar and then choose the composite as the compare source. The viewport will be showing you a split view of the composite and the mask level. Click and drag in the viewport so you only see the composite.

If you want to perform a operation to only certain pixels do not use a masks use selections. Apply a draw selection prior to the operator and you can isolate what ever you want. Since the draw selection is a vector object make sure to apply a remove selection above the operator so the selection is removed in the hierarchy if needed.

There are some very big differences from A/E and combustions workflow so I highly recommend you spend some time with the manual. But of course your questions will always be welcome and we are here to help.

Later
Ken LaRue
combustion application engineer
http://www.thestreetproductions.com


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Eric CraftRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 3:13:50 pm

[alts] "1. I have animated a mask over time. When I go to the "Timeline" tab, how do I get my keyframes to show up? I cannot figure this out for the life of me and I do realize it's most likely that ever-elusive "show keyframes button" I just have no idea where they hid it in this program."

The keyframes are always available you just have to access the animated channels (animated channels are indicated by 2 white boxes with a dashed line in between). There are a few ways to get there: 1) Manually navigate to the transform of the Layer/Object/Control Point (all of these have seperate transforms so its a matter of what you animated). 2) Choose the > arrow in the timeline and choose "Show Only Animated Channels". To change the actual values of the animated channel you have to click the > next to transform and then edit the X or Y values.

[alts] "2. If I have "Layer01" on top of "Layer02" and I mask out part of 01 so that only a portion of it is visible, how do I view the composite of both layers while still being able to see the mask and it's handles so that I may edit the mask while viewing the entire composite?"

You can only edit the mask with the mask object as your active layer. Once again you have multiple options: 1) set the background layer to Layer02 and then edit the mask as needed, you need to access the actual mask object to see the background. 2) Since Combustion supports multiple viewports you can set another viewport to the composite and see the changes interactively there.

[alts] "3. How do I simply mask an operator, say like a color correction, on an image?"

You would want to use a selection operator then the color corrector (ie Layer>Selection>Color Corrector). If you need to remove the selection to effect all of the footage then use a remove selection operator (ie Layer>Selection>Color Corrector>Remove Selection>More Operators).

Hope this helps,
-Eric



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Kenneth La RueRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 3:19:14 pm

Ha Ha Eric,

I type faster than you.

What a great forum!!!!

Later
Ken LaRue
combustion application engineer
http://www.thestreetproductions.com


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Eric CraftRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 7:53:01 pm

But...But...um...I gave him more options :X

-Eric


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Kenneth La RueRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 8:00:50 pm

Good Point! And you used his questions in quotes. Very nicely done. I feel like a slacker now.

Later
Ken LaRue
combustion application engineer
http://www.thestreetproductions.com


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gary m. davisRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 26, 2005 at 9:09:57 pm

this sounds like an excellent time to check out the tutorials that come with combustion. not to be a dork (i cant help that, sorry) but this is really 101 stuff that is uber-mega-week1-fundamental. i seriosuly dont mean it to be insulting but its like saying "how do i use these layer things in photoshop?"

//gD

gary m. davis // visualz.com
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3ds max | combustion
"don't key DV!"


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Rayk HemmerlingRe: OT ...
by on May 26, 2005 at 11:44:35 pm

[gary m. davis] "uber-mega-week1-fundamental"

first, we germans are adopting all these american p/r buzz words (super-mega-hyper ...whatever) and now i read everywhere this (umlaut)uber-stuff. ...it's a funny world.

-rayk :o)


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gary m. davisRe: OT ...
by on May 27, 2005 at 12:11:02 am

Kein Problem. Manchmal nehmen wir von Ihnen und Sie nehmen von uns!

//gD

gary m. davis // visualz.com
application training specialist
3ds max | combustion
"don't key DV!"


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Kenneth La RueRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 12:10:53 am

Wait a mintue!

Photoshop has layers?



Later
Ken LaRue
combustion application engineer
http://www.thestreetproductions.com


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gary m. davisRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 12:12:10 am

thats the word on the street. that and something about some compositing program they are trying to hype.

//gD

gary m. davis // visualz.com
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3ds max | combustion
"don't key DV!"


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alex udellRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 11:44:36 am

dang...and I've been doing all my bitmap editing in illustrator all this time....


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Dwaynne VilliersRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 3:18:59 pm

i didnt know ppl still used photoshop after they discovered combustion...funny world...


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Eric CraftRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 3:22:55 pm

Wait who is the Adobe company? I thought Microsoft's MSPaint was the top of the line image editor.

-Eric


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B.J. AhlenRe: Timeline/Keyframe Problem From C4 Noob
by on May 27, 2005 at 4:20:24 pm

There is MSPaint?

I've been using the "graphics thingie" in Microsoft Word for all my image editing, and now you're telling me they have an even more professional application? Oh, the things I have missed by not being in this forum...

Can't wait for the release of Macrobe Frustrator 1.0 at the end of the year, finally a vector app designed by a committee!


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