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WYSIWYG question
by Carlos Manuel on Jun 29, 2009 at 2:58:58 pm

Hi all,

Seems silly, but I've just realized that with AXIO / RT-X2 we ONLY get video out on Premiere Pro, but NOT on AE, PS, Combustion, etc., if we work with 32-bit OS.

Is this correct?

If yes, this is quite silly, at least...


Please confirm me what soft's can give Video Out on YUV or SDI with Vista64 on these Matrox systems.


Will this be a valid reason to move to another I/O board?

I'm a user and fan of Matrox, but also a user and fan of Combustion and Photoshop...

Sincerely,
Carlos



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Re: WYSIWYG question
by Marc Sparks on Jun 30, 2009 at 2:29:15 am

I'll let someone more knowledgeable give you a more detailed answer, but the short answer is... no that is not correct.

First of all, I'm not sure what you are asking...you say that nothing but Premiere Pro works in a 32 bit OS (which is absolutely not true), but then you ask what works in Vista 64.

It's true that the datasheets for Axio, RX.2 and MXO2 Mini all contain the phrase "32 bit versions only". I've always took that to mean 32 bit versions of LIGHTWAVE 3D, but I could be wrong. After Effects should work no matter what, because there is no 64 bit version, and of course, same goes for Encore. I know Combustion didn't have a 64 bit version as of 2008, don't know if that has changed.

However, it's possible that it may not work with 3Ds Max, Photoshop, or Eyeon Fusion in the 64 bit versions. Hopefully someone else can clear this up. But there certainly should be no reason you couldn't use After Effects or Combustion.

And, of course, with Photoshop, both versions install...so you can make the decision whether 64 bit performance or WYSIWYG is more important. And there are a lot of people who question whether 64 bit Photoshop has ANY benefit over 32 bit at this time. Certainly, if you are working with a frame at HD resolution...or even at 4K resolution...there should be no real need to use the 64 bit version. It's really for people working at massively hi-res print resolutions.


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Re: WYSIWYG question
by Carlos Manuel on Jun 30, 2009 at 2:22:58 pm

Thanks for the answer.
I've not explain myself correctly.

Seems that with Win 64-bit, Axio/RT-X2 does not have WUSIWYG.
This means that with Win 64-bit we only have video Out on Premiere Pro?

For me this is starnge.

My question is: with Windows Vista 64-bit, what aplications will have video out during work?

I know that Combustion only uses 32-bit.
But, as far as I know, AfterEffects will profit from 64-bit OS.
If with Axio or RT-X2 on a OS 64-bit, the system does not output video during work on the timeline, is true, for me is a major con.

Please put this clear for me. My English is not perfect.

Thanks
Carlos

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Re: WYSIWYG question
by Lyn Norstad on Jul 1, 2009 at 1:44:56 pm

Carlos -

With Vista 64, both the Axio and RT.X2 systems do provide WYSIWYG for the same applications they have always worked with.

Adobe has also introduced a 64-bit version of Photoshop, which does not accept the Matrox WYSIWYG plug-in.

Hope that helps ...

Regards,

Lyn Norstad
Chicagoland, USA

Co-host of CreativeCOW forums:

Matrox Video Systems
Leitch dpsVelocity


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Re: WYSIWYG question
by Carlos Manuel on Jul 1, 2009 at 2:18:05 pm

Thanks Lyn,

Don't get mad with me, but something is passing in front of my eyes and I do not see it. Sorry!


Matrox says:
WYSIWYG for Adobe After Effects, and Photoshop, Autodesk Combustion and 3ds Max, eyeon Fusion, NewTek LightWave 3D (32-bit versions) with dynamic Alt+Tab switching


You say that with a 64-bit OS (Vista or XP) I get Video Out (WYSIWYG) from an AXIO or RT-X2 system.
This applyes when working with PremierePro, AfterEffects, Combustion and the others listed on Matrox site.

What is missing to me?

Does the aplications have to be the 32-bit versions??
So why work with a 64b OS?


If CS4 versions of PP, AE & PS take advantage of 64bOS, why do we can't use them with Matrox that says that only works with 32-bit versions.

Sorry if I do not make mysefl clear


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Re: WYSIWYG question
by Lyn Norstad on Jul 1, 2009 at 7:26:30 pm

Carlos -

No problem. I think the confusion is in the 32/64-bit terminology.

With the exception of the additional 64-bit version of Photoshop, ALL of the Adobe CS4 Production Premium applications are written as 32-bit, but with 64-bit OS compatibility.

That means they run as 32-bit apps in a 64-bit environment, and thereby enjoy the benefits of a 64-bit OS (including memory availability, disk drive partition size, CPU threading, etc.).

So the Matrox statement IS correct, and all is well in Vista 64 (including the WYSIWYG functionality with the 32-bit apps).

How's that?

Regards,

Lyn Norstad
Chicagoland, USA

Co-host of CreativeCOW forums:

Matrox Video Systems
Leitch dpsVelocity


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