partial import
by Tom Hepburn
on
Nov 6, 2008 at 4:09:53 pm
Hello,
I have a 130 Gig AVI file that I'm trying to import into Premier Pro. he total time of the clip is around 22 minutes. However whenever I import it into Premier (or AfterEffects for that matter) is shows the clip at just over a minute.
I can confirm that it's 22 minutes because, although it can't play realtime in Window Media Player, I can still see the footage. It also is confirmed in the properties of the file.
Has anyone else had this problem? I'm running Windows XP and CS3 with 1.5 gigs of RAM. I'm going to double that this weekend. This is a type2 avi.
I'm not impressed that you are cross posting across two forums before you've sorted out the memory issue. However, I don't think that this is where the problem is.
It sounds to me like the file didn't close properly when it was saved or that the codec is a specific - which leads to the obvious question: Where is the AVI originating from?
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
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Re: partial import by Tom Hepburn on Nov 6, 2008 at 9:07:48 pm
Hi Mads,
Thanks for the response. The reason for posting on the two forums is that not all Premier Pro users are using High Definition footage. Nobody suggested that the RAM might be a problem, and like you I'm skeptical that this is the reason for the problem. This was something that I thought I would try as all of the other options I'm aware of failed.
To answer your question, and once again I appreciate you response, the footage in question was Super 16 mm film, that was processed, and scanned at 1080p to a D5 tape format, digitized 10 bit uncompressed @ 23.98, and then copied to my hard drive. Personally, I have never even had it opened to improperly close it.
OK - what is your project settings in PPro?
What HD card was used for capture - do you have the codec?
And do you actually have a HD card in the PC to allow you to display that frame rate?
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
Please watch our latest video on Data Protection at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyv_lTywwc
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Re: partial import by Tom Hepburn on Nov 6, 2008 at 9:41:39 pm
All very good questions :)
I think I tried about every preset in PP with the same results. I believe I used the hdv 1080p preset and made sure that the frame rate was 23.976. Although I'm not in front of my project at the moment. I'll be home later tonight to double check.
In terms of the card I have:
ATI 9800 PRO, (128 MB) AGP Video Card
I did take a 3 gig test that I brought in, and it worked. BUT now my work around has been exposed! Financially I have to work with what I have for now. Here is my workflow:
*Import footage (ideally)
*render a low quality, highly compressed, movie to it's own folder/directory
*make sure it has the same name as the original. I know...
*replace the footage in PP with my overly compressed version
*reduce to draft quality and view at 25%
*do all of my editing
*copy and overwrite my compressed version with my original
*open PP render and burn to disk.
I do not know what kind of card was used for capture. I have just left a message to find out.
Did you shoot the film at 23.98?
And is this what it was scanned out as - i.e. has someone messed with the D5 play back settings?
My suggested work-flow to you would be to convert the AVI to a sequential file (Which is what you would have been better off originally scanning to - unless your scanner is SD and using a up-converter on the way out...). Import the file sequence into PPro for editing and then On-Line/master out on a HD PPro system - the only issue you might get there is rescaling the stills in the OnLine.
I suspect that you will find that you are missing the uncompressed codec used by the capture PC. Why it worked for the test is a miracle - but then you might just have been using any old AVI uncompressed file. Also keep in mind that HDV is very compressed and that this format is not frame acurate - depending on manufacturer (You should be save with Adobe - which is a fine choice, if only they would return my phone-calls... :-( )
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
Please watch our latest video on Data Protection at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyv_lTywwc
Blog: http://blog.myspace.com/bigflopproductions
What codec was used for the file capture!
And do you have that codec installed?
And no - USB is not a good carrier for High Definition editing - maybe try and do a search on this forum before asking again...
Or read some of the many articles written on the subject - also on the COW.
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
Please watch our latest video on Data Protection at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyv_lTywwc
Blog: http://blog.myspace.com/bigflopproductions
No, Sadly I was not being sarcastic. However, if I was to suggest that you use USB-1 instead of 2 - that would be a sarcastic comment...
I am not impressed with you asking us about speed and hard drives - this is a subject that has been covered far and wide in this forum. Frankly, either you spend $20,000 on a editing system, or you get your file converted to a format that your NLE can handle and then let a professional outfit do the final online for you. (Professional, as in the same kind that scanned the film to D5 for you)
I hope this helps - go use the COW search function and you'll find more about Hard-Drives than you would ever care to know about...
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
Please watch our latest video on Data Protection at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyv_lTywwc
Blog: http://blog.myspace.com/bigflopproductions
Re: partial import by Tom Hepburn on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:45:53 pm
Mads,
I was hoping that wasn’t the case. Since it is, you should know that I do not appreciate and am not impressed with your condescending attitude. I’m not sure who you think you’re talking to, or why you think it’s appropriate to talk to someone in that way.
I value the Creative Cow community and consider myself a positive participant. I have frequented these forums regularly and have contributed. I might add that when I have responded, I have been respectful, friendly, and courteous to others. I have made some strong friendships with other users along the way.
In my view, this post has not solicited the negative, condescending, and uncalled for tone of your response. It was not abusive or incendiary. I came here to ask specific questions about a situation that I have not been able to solve on my own. I have also searched incessantly on the subject both here and elsewhere. You have helped some and I appreciate it, but as a whole, you’re not worth the trouble. I will no longer post on this High End forum while you’re the moderator.
I will point out that there are advertisers on this site that are paying money and trying to solicit business. In fact I just clicked on the banner for G-Tech yesterday to see what options I have regarding large storage. In my experience, business is something that is conducted a certain way. I’m wonder how G-tech would feel about a moderator using this tone with their potential customers on a site they’re paying to advertise on? I will no longer see their ads on the HD High-End Creative Cow forum as I will be elsewhere.
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it, as is everybody else here.
However, if you are not willing to spend $20,000 - like most of us here is, then you might as well have shot your short on HDV rather than 16mm - sorry, but cornflakes taste better with milk on - the same goes for what we do here.
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
Mac Million Ltd. - HD Production & Editing
Please watch our latest video on Data Protection at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyv_lTywwc
Blog: http://blog.myspace.com/bigflopproductions
