| Deck Choices
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I'm considering a new deck purchase for a studio program feed. The studio shoots with 4 hdx900's. The deck choices are (of course) the panasonic 1400, or the Sony XDCam Hd deck.
I'm sure the 1400 is the logical choice, but I'm tossing around the other opiton for the following reasons.
1. Initial deck cost (we'll buy 2)
2. Ongoing media cost (we shoot anywhere from 5 - 9 hours of program per week.)
3. Most of our delivery will be in SD
What type of quality difference is there between the two decks?
Any thoughts?
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by Steve Wargo on Jan 15, 2008 at 9:24:49 pm |
Sony and Panasonix do not use the same tape format. XDCAM is a disc.
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It's a dry heat!
Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
Sony EX-1 has arrived and it's fascinating.
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I am fully aware that the XDCAM is a disk. I don't see how this matters since the program feed will be recorded off the switcher.
I'm looking for thoughts of the differences between decks - which will obviously be a conversation about the differences in format.
Thanks
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So sorry...
The studio will be equipped with HPX500's
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by Bob Zelin on Jan 16, 2008 at 1:46:20 am |
Do you want to save money ? Don't buy a deck. Record the output of your switcher directly into your editing system - right onto the hard drives. Eliminate all digitizing time, and be ready to edit right after the shoot. If you are using HPX500 cameras, you have P2 cards you are recording onto for the field, so for the studio, you don't need a VTR. Let me assure you that the Sony PDW-F70 is NOT a studio "mastering" deck.
Need to output your show - rent a VTR. (The AJ-HD1400 is the correct answer for what you should buy, however).
Bob Zelin
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Thanks Bob. Sounds like the 1400 is the way to go.
We'll be shooting a lot of content and our editors won't have the ability to handle it all as fast as we can throw it at them.
However, I was already considering placing a FCP station in the studio strictly for capture and using external hard drives to transport the footage to the edit rooms (6 miles away from the studio) and avoid digitizing. Perhaps I could invest in a massive amount of firewire drives and archive the shoots for a month or so until the editors can tackle it.
Any thoughts on a cost effective hard drive solution? Obviously it'll just be for transport, we'll move the footage to faster drives for editing.
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by Jeff Brown on Jan 16, 2008 at 4:47:29 pm |
I believe there are SATA enclosures with removable drives showing up on the market; then you could just buy a couple of enclosures, and add bare drives for all the footage you'll have.
Just a thought,
Jeff Jeff Brown
Fire Mist Media
http://www.firemist.com
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Wiebetech actually has an enclosure that doesn't even use trays. I've been buying 750gb WD internal drives and making RAID 1's out of a pair. They are delicate but the savings from not buying the housing, power supply, etc. can certainly pay for some static bags and a couple of pelican cases for transport.
-Sean Donnelly
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Looks really nice. Pricing is a little higher than what I expected... but I like the simplicity of the swappability.
Why are you going with the 750gig drives and not the 1tb. Any stability issues with the larger of the two?
8tb would be really good for the kind of setup I'm looking at.
Thanks
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by Bob Zelin on Jan 17, 2008 at 1:48:33 am |
Jimmy -
email me privately at maxavid@cfl.rr.com, and I will tell you what to get for an 8TB RAID 5 SATA array. The suggestion for simple removable SATA's was an excellent suggestion, however, and is commonly used as a very inexpensive solution.
SATA's dramatically outperform FW drives, and the reliablity is dramatically better.
Bob Zelin
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I like the 750's b/c of the price per gig, theoretically they are more stable, and 750 seems to hold a job fairly well with what I'm doing. Bob, I'd be interested to hear what you recommend for an 8tb SATA raid 5, I'm going to be in the market for a new on set working raid soon.
-Sean Donnelly
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by Bob Zelin on Jan 19, 2008 at 6:47:35 pm |
Sean -
you write -
Bob, I'd be interested to hear what you recommend for an 8tb SATA raid 5, I'm going to be in the market for a new on set working raid soon
REPLY - email me privately at maxavid@cfl.rr.com.
Bob Zelin
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Jimmy,
Wow.
The new RaveHD Bravo would be perfect. I will let the cat out of the bag a little but can't disclose too much yet.
Record straight to drive :) remove drive Pak and transport, place in second RaveHD and or server and have immediate access to frames :)
ABSOLUTELY no transfer times. Economical and a workflow that's already in place and proven....
Cheers,
Ramona
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