Teranex vs. Edirol
by mauimatt
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Sep 14, 2007 at 7:48:29 pm
Getting ready to demo a Teranex VC-300 vs. a Edirol VC-200 with a workflow based on upconverting Component Beta SD to various HD flavors thru those boxes to compare image quality and overall performance. Hoping these boxes can live up to what appears in their specs. Anyone have experience with any of these Products? We'll either get one of these or upgrade our KONA LHe's to KONA3 with AV10 converters. Maybe Blackmagic Eclipse?? Still struggling thru this transition into the HD world. Kinda missing the simple one flavor, workhorse "bombproof" days of BETA SP!
Matt
Re: Teranex vs. Edirol by ken hon on Sep 15, 2007 at 6:50:48 pm
Aloha Gary,
We have been thinking about upconverting some of our SD stock footage to HD. We have a Kona 3 and have done some tests. They're ok, but it's clearly upconverted footage. Will a Teranex upconversion be really noticeably different? Also have you seen the difference between a Teranex mini and something like the VC300?
We're on the Island of Hawaii and on't have much of a chance to see these things for ourselves, so it would be really nice to hear your opinion.
Our stock footage is housed and duplicated at Point 360 in LA and I know they have a Teranex at their Burbank facility that we could use for $$. We're just wondering if it would be worth the $$. The footage is mostly of erupting volcanoes and is used in a productions for Discovey, Nat Geo etc. so the upconversion needs to be really good to be worthwhile.
Re: Teranex vs. Edirol by gary adcock on Sep 16, 2007 at 1:14:08 am
OK
that was not the question you asked the first time.
what you are REALLY asking
" is the alternative better than what I have already"
I have a Mini unit, a Kona 3 and any number of other solutions.
ALL FW captured DV footage is always passed thru the mini with noise reduction on. I remap the audio channels after it passes thru the conversion as the output is constantly.
But when it comes to well shot beta or DVCAM - it is a toss up.
The Teranex Mini does not handle 24 or 23.98 footage. My Kona card does in realtime - no audio shifting.
Funny you should ask this too,
Teranex was showing the VC100 vs the Kona 2 card in their booth at IBC ;last week, but we did not see it against the Kona 3....
"Our stock footage is housed and duplicated at Point 360 in LA and I know they have a Teranex at their Burbank facility that we could use for $$."
there is a reason teranex has that reputation. They make great dedicated hardware to do only a very few things. That is also the reason that it is more than 2x a Kona card, inspite of only really doing only conversions,
On a high quality master it is a tough call, but when you are working with not the best captured materials, teranex is the way to go,
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Re: Teranex vs. Edirol by ken hon on Sep 16, 2007 at 1:48:45 am
Aloha Gary,
Thanks for the answers, they're very helpful to me. And to be fair to Matt who asked the first question, I'm a different person from a different island in Hawaii (the Big Island). I hadn't really noticed that Matt was from here too until afterwards. Sorry about the confusion and apologies to Matt, but thanks for the answers.
Re: Teranex vs. Edirol by Bob Zelin on Sep 17, 2007 at 2:28:22 am
Gary -
it is my guess (and bet) that after these boys do their demo's, they will buy NOTHING, and stick with the free upconversion on their AJA Kona products. I have seen this over and over. Free always wins out.
Re: Teranex vs. Edirol by mauimatt on Sep 19, 2007 at 7:08:26 pm
In the midst of my Edirol vs. Teranex demo. The Edirol VC300HD is really easy to use so far but not "jumping out of my chair" over the quality. Nothing I can't accomplish via software solution we already have. I'am still waiting on the Teranex VC100. Hoping all the hype about their "Realta" chipset really seperates them from all other available SD/HD converter boxes.
25K$$ will be hard sell to the Boss. But if the shots can hold up to a edit with our HDX900 footage we may get it.
