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Bob ZelinArticle: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 11:02:19 am


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Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket UltrascopeBlackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope

With new shows coming in the door for Pink Sneakers Productions, Bob Zelin looked to Blackmagic Design's new SmartView HD Monitor and Pocket UltraScope to make the configuration upgrades while maintaining a sense of budget.

Review   01/25/2012
Author: Bob Zelin



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Shaun RoemichRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 8:16:39 pm

VERY much appreciate your insight, Bob. EXTRA excited to finally get mine when it ships. And then order a UltraScope.

Big Dog - Technical Director - Switcher
Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC Canada
roaddogmedia@gmail.com


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Bob ZelinRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 10:04:15 pm

as a side note, today, I just set up the edit rooms for the Nascar Rolex 400 in Daytona, FL. All monitors were the Panasonic BT-LH series, as used by Pink Sneakers featured in this article. While the Blackmagic SmartView is no competition to the new Sony OLED monitors, I think that Panasonic, JVC, Marshall and the others are in for a big surprise once Blackmagic does a full release of this product. And if a "gen 2" SmartView comes out, with A/B inputs, blue only, safety, and cross pulse - well, it's game over for most of these companies.

Bob Zelin



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Shaun RoemichRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 10:25:33 pm

So the 6 bit colour on the SmartViewHD ISN'T a limiting factor for colour correction, if I read your article correctly?

THAT in and of itself is interesting and changes a LOT of things...

Would you still recommend a more traditional "colour accurate" 8 or 10 bit monitor for specific circumstances and what would those be, in YOUR estimation?

As I've said before, my intent was to use it as a MultiView monitor for my ATEM 1M/E but I'm wondering if I shouldn't rethink some of my monitor allocations...

Big Dog - Technical Director - Switcher
Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC Canada
roaddogmedia@gmail.com


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Bob ZelinRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 11:54:53 pm

Look Shaun,
this is not a CineTal. This is not a TV Logic. This is not a Sony
OLED monitor. And I have not seen this side by side with the wonderful FSI.

But MOST PEOPLE want to spend the LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY to do their job - and if you compare the SmartView to a Sony Luma, a JVC Vetere,
or a Panasonic BT-LH series, the image is as good or better than these monitors which are significantly more expensive.

This is not a miracle - it's just a real good deal - a real good value.

Same applies to the Ultracope. Compared to most of the pieces of crap that people try to pickup on ebay, the Ultrascope blows these products away. Is the Ultrascope an OmniTek, or a $12,000 Tektronix scope - OF COURSE NOT.

I am sorry for being cranky, but when I discuss products I discuss them for the masses. I am the worlds biggest fan of the Blackmagic Videohubs, but you can't compare the Videohub to a 1200 crosspoint NVision router.

Bob Zelin



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Shaun RoemichRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:09:13 am

Sincerest apologies if my inquiry came off wrong. I meant NO offense or snideness in it. I was just honestly surprised to hear that a broadcast client was using one as a correction monitor and wanted to know more about where it falls and where it excels.

If my response came across as smarmy, that was not my intent. You have been incredibly kind in sharing your professional wisdomw with me as well as the community at large and for that I am truly grateful.

Big Dog - Technical Director - Switcher
Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC Canada
roaddogmedia@gmail.com


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Shaun RoemichRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:16:35 am

Additionally, please allow me to point out that my retailer has had the money allocated for mine since mid October and your reviews and input are the SOLE information I have right now on a purchase I have been waiting over 3 months for..

Big Dog - Technical Director - Switcher
Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC Canada
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Bob ZelinRe: Article: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:20:41 am

Hi Shaun -
it's not you - it's me. I come from a linear video background. It is inconceivable that ANYONE can work without a waveform montior and a vectorscope. But countless people do. People on these forums and ALL THE forums have only one thing in mind "what is the cheapest thing that I can do" - this is their only concern. (How come I cant record uncompressed 2K dpx files on my MacBook internal drive).

So you are surprised that people color grade on crap ? Many people simply don't color grade at all, and release for "broadcast delivery" . Nothing surprises me. Most of the outbursts you see me have on these forums is due to my frustration. When I see Blackmagic release an absolute miracle of a product for $995 (the ATEM Television Studio switcher) - at an impossible low price, and then you see the waves of complaints "how come I can't put analog audio into it - how come I need a converter" - I just want to strangle these people.
But don't worry, in a few weeks someone will ask if they can avoid buying the Sony 24" OLED monitor and instead buy the SmartView instead. And of course, the answer will be yes, because real TV shows are done on the SmartView - is it as good as the Sony OLED - of course not - but when did that matter ?

No matter what I say on these forums, I know that companies like Miranda, Harris, Evertz, Cobalt Digital and other hi end companies squirm when they see these amazing Blackmagic converters being sold for almost nothing. I know the game.

bob Zelin



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Dara Yem@Bob Zelin
by on Feb 18, 2012 at 12:19:14 pm

Hi Bob, my boss been upgrading our post house MC room reference monitor with a lots of the TVLogic 24LVM series..replacing Sony CRTs. I love the TVLogic series really good monitors for a good price compare to all the other more expensive brand.I been looking into getting one for my studio at home for Resolve work. But after I read about this monitor (smartview) when BMD announce it, love it on the price and stuff..except the 6 bit color dept. Now after seeing this review I might pick one up. I will be working in Rec709 mostly..but have to wait till after NAB going there to see new toys :). I come from a video background also...an Editor/DIT now I start out as a Tape Loader around 96.....1" was still being use, but in the transition to Beta was the post industry back then..Avid AVB75 and Quantel PaintBox anyone? haha


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Aleksander SteffensenRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 11:33:37 pm

Bob,

Thanks for this useful insight. I'm interested in knowing if the SmartView Duo is also suitable for colour grading? If I reckon correctly, these are 8-bit. Do you have any experience with these?


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Bob ZelinRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 25, 2012 at 11:57:05 pm

I use the SmartView Duo all the time. It is a wonderful 8" monitor for rack systems, field production systems, etc. No matter what my answer is - how would ANYONE "color grade" on an 8" monitor ? Do you have special glasses ?

The answer to your question is no. But I know the real reason you are asking - you want a great monitor for $660. Well, for $660, this is a great monitor.

Bob Zelin



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Aleksander SteffensenRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:07:17 am

Fair point, I do agree that 8" is in general too small to use for colour grading. I'm asking because I would like to know whether the SmartView Duo is reliable for monitoring video, along with the UltraScope PCI version, in a small TV control room.

Aleksander Steffensen
Steffensen Multimedia


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Bob ZelinRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:21:54 am

the SmartView Duo is PERFECT in a small TV control room, or in a remote truck. There is nothing close to this pricepoint that can do the same job.

bob Zelin



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jj johnsonRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 29, 2012 at 12:47:47 am

I would like to weigh in and say that this monitor is only a tool. Not the best tool in the shed but still a quite usable tool. As long as your colorist knows what to look for, and how to interpret what is seen, it is an adequate cost effective monitor.

But the human factor must be accounted for. The eye/brain is an essential part of the equation.

Bob is right and the scope is the important part.


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Kevin MinderhoutRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 30, 2012 at 12:21:14 am

Hey Bob,

Love reading your reviews and comments. Was wondering what your thoughts are on using a SmartView HD vs. 27" Apple Cinema Display for an ATEM multiview? I believe I read elsewhere that your opinion on the matter was to just throw the cheapest television available at it and call it good.

We did that for one event (we do live sports) and the resolution of our 32" tv just didn't cut it for us. Our switcher couldn't really make judgements on exposure from his monitor. For a portable system that gives us good image sharpness with multiview would you recommend the 27" Cinemas Display or the SmartView HD or something else entirely? We're probably not looking to go over $1000 for this monitor.

Thanks a lot!

Kevin


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Kevin MinderhoutRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 7:52:15 pm

Anyone?


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Bob ZelinRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 10:09:23 pm

the Apple Cinema is a DVI monitor, not an HD-SDI monitor.
The Blackmagic SmartView is a SPECTACULAR monitor, and it is in your budget - under $1000, and you don't need a HD-SDI to DVI converter to get this to work.

There is no question that the SmartView is a better choice for your application.

Bob Zelin



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Kevin MinderhoutRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Feb 2, 2012 at 10:10:46 pm

Cool. Thanks Bob.


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Shlomo Hazan@Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Feb 23, 2012 at 11:53:14 pm

Dear Bob,
I have just created an account here in purpose of thanking you for this article. I was very sceptical about the Smartview HD's capabilities when I saw it on their site (because of the amazingly low cost, of course). But now, after reading your insights, I have no doubt which monitor I am going buy for color grading. Thank you so much!

Shlomo Hazan
Director and editor


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Pierre Paré-BlaisRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Aug 11, 2012 at 2:12:43 pm

Ha! "How come I cant record uncompressed 2K dpx files on my MacBook internal drive" I love it! I think you should be able to do uncompressed 10-bit 4K dpx on a macbook air too while we're at it! ;)

seriously though, your review was very helpful to me in choosing an entry level solution for accurate monitoring for my new post suite. As someone who at this point only does occasional colourgrading work, I couldn't justify the expense of higher quality monitor just yet, and this will do for most of my needs in the nearby future, it's not like I'm grading for cinematic release anyways! I have one question though, did you find the smartview had a bit of a blueish temperature, or is that just me, or is that normal and I'm just not use to it because I've never ctually owned an accurate monitor?

Pierre P. Blais
Multimedia performance and VFX artist
Pierre P. Blais Productions
Perception Films
http://www.vimeo.com/user1771129


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Doug Farris@Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Sep 5, 2012 at 8:25:23 pm

Hi Bob,

Just wondering if you've had any recent experience with the current gen Sony Vaio's as the model you link to in the story above, VPCL236FX/W, is no longer an active model. Have you installed the pocket ultrascope on a one of their current models like the SVL2411AFYB or SVL24116FXB? Like the idea of running the video router and scopes from the all in one, but was trying to not be super brave and purchase one of the latest models on the hopes that it will still work.

Thanks!

Doug


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Bob ZelinRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Sep 5, 2012 at 10:32:06 pm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/848397-REG/Sony_VPCL23BFX_W_VAIO_L23_...

This will work fine, and yes, you can run the Ultrascope and control the Videohub on the same computer.
It works great.

Bob Zelin



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Seth ThyRe: Blackmagic Design’s SmartView HD Monitor & Pocket Ultrascope
by on Jan 6, 2013 at 8:10:45 am

Hi Bob,
first let me thank you for this review. I'm in a process of ordering SmartView HD and DaVinci but I just wont to ask you few things to be sure.

I used to work in Apple Color on configuration you can see in my signature. As you can see I'm using old SD monitor but, since most of my work ends up on TV (which in my country is still mostly SD) he was quite accurate and I'm satisfied with him.

Soon I'll be color grading short movie and a few TV commercials.
So I decided to buy this configuration I've been working on from production facility (completely with SD monitor) and to upgrade it and switch to DaVinci.
Since I have AJA and ATI they told me I need to get:

BMD HD Extreme 3
nVIDIA Quadro
DaVinci Resolve
+ HD broadcast monitor.

Since I'm on my own right now and I don't have a lot of money, SmartView HD for that price is a life savior. In a year, if I'm still working on TV commercials I'll be more than happy to spend more money on equipment if needed.


So here's my questions:

1. how correct is color and contrast on SV? Can it be calibrated (since everything is software based) and if so, how can I calibrate it?
I'm asking this cause I have a really bad expirience with HD monitoring. On my old job they used to have Panasonic HD monitor (not sure which one) and JVC SD monitor connected. The problem was that picture on HD monitor looked really bad! Black was gray and all colors were pale. And I couldn't fix that with calibration.
I'm always using waveform monitor and vectorscope so I see correct image. But when I tried to make 'looks' for commercial it was huge problem. Especially when clients came to see, they were just confused. So, at the end I unplugged HD monitor and show them everything on SD.

2. I'm not sure about Ultrascope. Do I need to buy it or can I use DaVinci scopes?

Thank you very much

Regards

Seth

Mac 2x2,4 GHz Quad-Core / OS 10.6.8. / FCP 7.03
10 GB 1066 MHz DD3
ATI Radeon HD 5770
AJA Kona LHi
Broadcast monitor: JVC TM-H1950CGE


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