24p normal? 24p advanced?
by andrew paul bowser
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Nov 18, 2005 at 8:18:31 am
I am shooting a music video this weekend and I was wondering what were the benefits of shooting in 24p advanced? I shot on that setting once and brought it into final cut (without changing the correct settings) and it looked like it was shot on VHS!
This will be fixed if I change my FCP easy set-up correct?
Will 24p advanced have that "film look"?
What are the pros and cons between normal and advanced 24p settings?
Re: 24p normal? 24p advanced? by Noah Kadner on Nov 18, 2005 at 11:45:52 pm
How exactly did it look like VHS? Sounds like you have your settings messed up. You should be using he DV-NTSC Easy Setup unless you're planning a filmout.
Re: 24p normal? 24p advanced? by elusivectw on Nov 22, 2005 at 3:54:53 pm
The way I understand it, 24p uses a 2:3 pulldown, 24pA utilizes a 2:3:3:2 pulldown. So it all depends on your timeline. If you edit in a 60i timeline, use 24p. If you edit in a 24p timeline, use 24pA.
Re: 24p normal? 24p advanced? by Noah Kadner on Nov 23, 2005 at 4:31:31 pm
There's a little more to it than that. 24p and 24pA can both be edited at 23.98 or 60i because that's how they initially exist on the tape. 24pA can be automatically converted to 23.98 by FCP's Automatic Advanced Pulldown removal whereas 24p standard must be reverse telecined manually via CinemaTools. So- yes if your desire is to edit at 23.98, 24pA makes it much easier than 24p standard but either can be cut at 24p or 60i.
Re: Why wouldn't you use 24pa? by Noah Kadner on Nov 24, 2005 at 6:53:34 pm
24p standard is useful for systems that are not 24pA aware and need the standard cadence in order to reverse telecine- like older NLEs. It also looks marginally smoother if left at 29.97 with it's pulldown intact in a final edit. But when in doubt I highly recommend 24pA as it gives you the most options down the road.
Re: Why wouldn't you use 24pa? by doggies on Nov 24, 2005 at 7:02:31 pm
Thank you noah,
I am a seaoned pd-150 user. TV, DOC, Commercial, blah blah blah
Yesterday my dvx 100b arrived. Saturday I leave for Africa for 1 month to film AIDS orphans inrefugee camps in Kenya and Uganda.
I have no freakin clue what I am doing. The cameras really seem different. And I am feeling a bit anxious.
I have read the Barry Green book and watched the dvd.
I would love to know what you think would be the optimal settings for this camera.
We will be aiming for festival and theatrical future for this film.
I was thinking I would shoot 24p Gamma indoor and 24p normal outdoor.
